SAT Pitch Raise to Lower Pitch

[Farrell]

Thanks John. That is exactly what I do in these situations. It takes alot of
time, especially when the initial piano pitch is all over the place (kinda
kills the whole philosophy of the SAT speeding up pitch raises). In that
case you need to reset to standard pitch ('cause you don't remember the
offset because you have been setting it all over the place), measure the
pitch of your next note, mentally calculate your next target pitch :-(,
reset the offset, pitch raise that note. Like I say, when the piano is all
over the place, I tent to check my offset or pitch raise setting every few
notes. If I am headed to standard pitch, I can do that in the blink of an
eye ;-). But otherwise, is this what I am stuck with :-(?

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "John M. Formsma" <jformsma@dixie-net.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: SAT Pitch Raise to Lower Pitch


> Terry,
>
> I think that the SAT automatically pitch raises to standard pitch when you
> use the offset calculator thingee. Since you are wanting the ending pitch
to
> be around 50 cents, why don't you try setting the SAT 35-40 cents flat and
> do a normal FAC tuning. You will have to tune it a few times anyway, so
> "pitch raise" it first at 25-35 cents flat in the bass, less flat in
> midrange, and less in treble. It will drop. Then pitch raise it again with
> the SAT 45 or so cents flat. Then tune it at 50 cents flat. It should be
> getting stable at 50 cents flat then. You would have to calculate the
pitch
> drop to know how flat to set the SAT, but it probably would not follow any
> "standard" rule since it is so grossly flat.
> Best regards,
>
> John Formsma
> Blue Mountain, MS
>
>
>
> <<Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. When I use the pitch raise
> feature,
> it completely ZAPS any reference to the original targeted 50 cent flat
> offset and simply calculates an appropriate pitch raise overpull for pitch
> of A440, i.e., if I were to then tune A0 after using the pitch raise
> feature, it would indicate that I need to raise A0 about 125 cents (the
> original 100 cents it was below A440, plus the 25% overpull for the pitch
> raise that the SAT throws in).
>
> Is this a limitation of the SAT :-(?  I find it hard to imagine that I am
> the only one that needs to do such an undesirable procedure. Please tell
me
> I am overlooking something :-) (and then be specific as to what)! If it is
a
> limitation (I can't believe Dr. Sanderson missed this situation), does
> anyone know of a slick way around it?>>
>
>