Tuning vs intonation

[Larry J. Messerly]

Thanks Richard, 

My gratest difficulty in learning to tune was not the thirds, I could
accept beating thirds for some reason, but because of the violin, I
always have to fight to not make the 5th's pure.  

 
> I have always tuned by beats, never heard pitch.  Well, the 
> pitch in upper treble and lower bass gets you to the neighborhood,
> but it always beats that finally determine tuning.  I never heard 
> when I
> played on the piano, C4--E4,  that the E was sharper than what I
> would sing.  
> 	When you played violin or trombone, did you ever notice this
> intonation difference  on the piano before you were told
> about it?  I always wondered after I learned piano tuning why no
> one complained or said anything about the sharp thirds.   I haven't
> played musical instruments in an organized setting, but did sing in
> a HS chorus, and didn't notice the difference there. 
> 	My home piano was a half a tone flat from my teacher's piano 
> but I
> never heard that I was playing a Chopin Prelude in a different key
> for the lesson than what I practiced in, and since she lived right
> around the corner,  sometimes that was within 15 minutes.    
> ---ric  Atleasthecanmatchpitch
>