This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment "When a wood flange swells with high humidity the action center hole = swells also, more so with the grain than across the grain. Think of it = this way: when you have a hole in a normal (non-laminated) piece of = wood, the hole behaves like the plug of wood which was removed. With a = large humidity increase, action center holes in the wood get slightly = oval if they were drilled when the wood was very dry." I have heard/read this many times, so I suppose it is true. But, = intuitively, it makes no sense to me. If you drill a hole in a piece of = wood and expose it to high humidity, the wood will swell - and swell = much more across the grain (perpendicular to the grain direction) than = with the grain. So why doesn't the hole tend to close a bit - on the two = sides of the whole where the tangents are parallel to the wood grain. If I take a board, drill a half-inch diameter hole through it, push a = half-inch diameter rod through it (snug fit), and place the board in = water or high humidity, I should think the rod would be tight in the = wood - maybe even crack it (meaning of course that the hole gets smaller = with increasing humidity). And if dried in a kiln or real low humidity = environment, wouldn't the rod just fall out? I suppose I need to get a = board and rod, but typing is easier - unless of course you don't agree = with me! :-) Maybe then I'll have to do the field test. Where is the flaw in my reasoning? (I hope this post doesn't sound = snotty - I'm trying to understand - you see, you can't see the = inquisitive look on my face and the absence of a know-it-all look!) Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Donald Mannino=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: Re: moisture in wool or wood. Hi Gang! I guess I should chime in on this topic, as I've played around with = action centers quite a bit. The wool cloth swells a lot with moisture changes. This is the main = reason action centers are so hard to manufacture so that they work in = all climates. You will find that the most reliable action companies = make the centers seem rather loose if you are in a dry climate. They do = it that way so that it will still work in humid climates. To really be = reliable in Florida and Southern Texas, they need to be on the edge of = too loose in Alberta! When a wood flange swells with high humidity the action center hole = swells also, more so with the grain than across the grain. Think of it = this way: when you have a hole in a normal (non-laminated) piece of = wood, the hole behaves like the plug of wood which was removed. With a = large humidity increase, action center holes in the wood get slightly = oval if they were drilled when the wood was very dry. Since the hole is = so small, though, this effect is pretty slight. The wool fibers swell in all directions, but the cloth sheet swells in = the direction that is easiest to move. If you wet a piece of wool cloth = laying out on a table, it will get a lot thicker and a little smaller in = width and length. Then it will generally stay there after it dries. =20 If you submerge a hammer in water, it's reaction will depend on how = tightly bound together the fibers are. Soft hammers will bloom out into = a fuzzy ball, while very hard hammers will hardly change shape at all. = I once soaked a really nasty hard sample hammer in a glass of water for = a week, and after it dried out it sounded pretty good! If you wet wool cloth and place a weight on it, it will swell up = slightly and try to lift the weight, then it will shrink back down and = (if the weight was heavy enough) the cloth will end up a little thinner = than it was before. Similarly, if you put a hammer into a hammer press = and add steam, the hammer will get smaller and harder. This is how = alcohol and water works to loosen a flange bushing. Because the bushing = is bound up by the pin and flange, the fibers try to swell with the = moisture (the water does the work, the alcohol is sort of a "thinner" = and penetrating agent). They get squeezed more tightly together and = pack the fibers more tightly together, sometimes squeezing out the sides = a little! Then when they dry again, the bushing is thinner and works = more freely. Sizing doesn't work as well after a certain point, as the wool becomes = packed as tightly as it practically can. If the original cloth was kind = of cheap, wet sizing with alcohol and water gives great results, if a = bit inconsistent. In theory, action centers in wood parts _should_ react less to = humidity changes than plastic parts do, but in reality the difference is = so slight as to not be measurable consistently. I have done some = experiments comparing the changes in center pin friction with extreme = humidity changes, and sometimes I found slight differences in the change = between wood and plastic. In other tests, I couldn't find any = differences, so the tests were just inconclusive. If you want to do some testing yourself, be sure to rebush all flanges = with the same cloth before you start, so that you eliminate different = cloths and pins as variables. Keep in mind that humidity is only one reason that action centers get = sluggish. In my action center class I talk about all the different = reasons that centers go tight, and there is a pretty good list. Cloth = which was not originally glued into the flange in a stable position is = one common reason (twisted cloth), as are burrs on the pins. Don Mannino RPT ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/77/fa/be/94/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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