I Apologize

[Elian Degen J.]

Hello List and Friends

First of all let me wish you a very happy New Year

Le´ts see if I can shed some light over this problem.

Here is the hesando message, which means it has been falling back to the
list and not to individuals:

The message that you sent was undeliverable to the following:
hesand01



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Information about your message:
Subject: Re: Question about ear plugs...

Now if you go to the properties you will be able to see something like this:

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ABOVE IS MY OWN PATH TO THE LIST ADIN AS A SUBSCRIBER TO THE LIST. HERE YOU
WILL PROBABLY SEE YOUR OWN PATH AS SUBSCRIBERS

Received: (from majordomo@localhost)

THE ABOVE LINE TELLS YOU THAT THE MESSAGE IS BOUNCING BACK TO THE LIST FROM
THE LIST ADMINISTRATOR. AND BELOW YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS
HAPPENING. THE PROBLEM COMES FROM SOMWHERE IN THE NET. WHEN ANY OF US SENDS
A MAIL TO THE LIST THIS MAIL IS REDIRECTED TO EACH OF US BY THE LISTS MAIL
ADMINISTRATOR. IT SEEMS THAT WHEN THE LIST ADMINISTRATOR FORWARDS THE MAIL,
IT BOUNCES BACK AS UNDELIVERED FROM SOME OF YOU, THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS
YOUR FAULT, IT JUST MEANS THAT FOR SOME REASON, WHICH COULD VERY WELL MEAN
MORE TRAFFIC THAN YOUR OWN ADMINISTRATOR CAN HANDLE, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF
CHRISTMAS OR WHO KNOWS WHAT, THE MAIL IS BEING RETURNED TO THE LIST AS
UNDELIVERABLE.

IF THE MAIL WAS DIRECTED TO ANY OF YOU AND YOU RECOGNIZE IT, NOTIFY IT TO
YOUR OWN MAIL ADMIN, THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO.

ELIAN





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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@KSCABLE.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: I Apologize


>
> >
> >     I just checked my e-mail and found a listing from myself on the list
> > which is vulgar. I just got this computer two days ago, and it's doing
all
> > kinds of weird stuff. I might have to take it back. I don't respond to
> > anybody like this, and certainly not to the list. I also found three
other
> > messages which were "undeliverable"  The first thing I did was to
install
> > virus protection and get all the updates for it before I even stepped
out on
> > the web. But this thing is acting totally weird.
> >     Once again, I'm embarrassed to have that message go from my computer
to
> > your list. Gees,,,,,,,,,I feel about 1 inch tall right now.
> > Kevin E. Ramsey, R.P.T.
> > <mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com>ramsey@extremezone.com
>
>
>
> I've been getting a bunch of pianotech addressed undeliverable mail
kickbacks
> for hesand01@louisville.edu. I assumed he was still subscribed, but not at
that
> address any longer, and the listserver was inadvertently posting the
kickbacks.
> I assumed no harm was being done to anything but Andy's schedule, so I
haven't
> mentioned it, assuming he had enough to do. Then again, maybe it's
something we
> need to know about. How about it Andy? What's happening?
>
> Ron N