This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment John 3:16 and Donald Duck on the Pianotech list.Dear Martin, So, let me get this straight: any time that someone shares their = thoughts or feelings or beliefs, you feel "pressured" to accept them? = Sad. You do not understand the Christian's heart. You can accept or = reject totally. That is all up to you. As it is the piano tuner's desire = to tune pianos, so it is the Christian's desire to share the promise and = hope of the Gospel. That's all. You have free will. Accepting a free = gift IS about the hardest thing there is to do. God loves you. That is = unchangeable. Go in peace. Robin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: vanbrussel=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 4:23 AM Subject: John 3:16 and Donald Duck on the Pianotech list. From: vanbrussel <vanbrussel@euronet.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:53:25 +0100 To: <DGPEAKE@aol.com> Subject: John 3:16 on the Pianotech list. Christopher Witmer, in a recent post, quoted John 3:16; "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. = For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but = that the world through Him might be saved." -- John 3:16-17 And then (another pianotech subscriber) : Why does this upset you so much? Are you under conviction? Read = the verse=20 again, insert your name instead of "the world" and see how it = applies to your=20 life.=20 Well Sir / Madam, I will try to explain to you why, yes.... it bothers me : In this opening sentence actually lies the cause and the answer (of = my being bothered): In the first place, I thought I am/was a subscriber to a so called = 'pianotech list', a forum for piano technicians (and not specificly = 'religious only' piano technicians). When I subscribed, I did so, because it said nowhere that one had to = be a piano tech AND be a member of any religion or church. By getting e-mail on that very pianotech list with religious = material like, : quote : "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that = whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. = For=20 God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but = that=20 the world through Him might be saved." -- John 3:16-17 " unquote. I am puzzled and annoyed. Why puzzled?=20 Because, as I said before, I wanted to be a subscriber to a = 'pianotech related' list without sermons or any kind of religious = influence. And why annoyed? Because I feel pressured to accept YOUR vision, YOUR way of living, = YOUR philosophy. You probably did not ask yourself (in this case) whether I had the = WISH and NEED to accept YOUR way, YOUR phantasies. Furthermore: Suppose I am a believer in 'Deity' Donald Duck...(and please, do = take my words seriously) How would YOU personally react to my asking you to accept 'HIS' = (Donald Duck's words? How would YOU personally react to my asking you to = "insert your name instead of "the world" and see how it applies to your = life" ("For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, = that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting = life. ). =20 You would probably feel very much insulted and you would considder = it blasfemy (and on top of that....on the pianotech list!) So, 'my point' is : Maybe I believe in Donald Duck? Maybe I believe in Allah? Maybe I believe in Buddha? Maybe I believe in the Thora? Maybe I believe NOTHING? I <<<< try to have respect for others by (on a public forum like = the pianotech list) not openly push forward MY religious believe or = opinion. If I would do so anyway, it would actually show my contempt for the = ideas of other persons, my personal criticism of what another human = being might feel privately in relation to religion, philosophy, or = whatever way of life. I did never want to write this letter in the first place, it did not = even come up into my mind! It shows, that by provoking subscribers of this list with YOUR = religious ideas, you FORCE and BOTHER other persons with something = private THEY never asked for. And that is exactly what I have against anybody, who forces his will = upon me...and I don't care whether it is political, religious, or Donald = Duck! May 'any' force be with you anyway.........because I wish no harm = upon you and forgive you. I just wanted to make this clear! Martin van Brussel PS. As I am still a subscriber to the Pianotech list, and as this all = came into the world because a religious subscriber of said list wanted = his personal religious opinion in public, I feel it necessary to make a = statement (I will however not disclose your personal name, out of = respect). If other religious subscribers (on the list) then find it necessary = to use the pianotech list as a battleground for their personal = pyilosophical beliefs, I will happily unsubscribe and switch over to a more = neutral territory. At least I know where I stand then. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/40/c5/6c/3d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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