"David Ilvedson, RPT" wrote: > Ron, > > My hammer technique is sort of a dynamic impact style and I consider it to > excellent. I use manipulation of the tuning pin and key in tandem. With > every other piano I have no problems but with Steinway verticals in general > I have absolutely no idea where the pitch is going, NONE. Pounding (which > I'm not a big fan of)does nothing, which leads me to believe with that huge > pressure bar the tension between the pin and the bar is not in sync with the > speaking length, i.e. tension higher from t-pin to bar. Tension seeps into > speaking length and up goes the pitch. > > David I. > I am not sure this is exactly the reason for the kind of pitch rise being described or not... but it seems a reasonable enough explanation on the surface of it. I used to dwell on this alot... why this or that happens when I use the tunning hammer this or that way. Perhaps it is enough to know simply that a piano behaves as it does when you approach it in a certain way, and behaves differently if you approach it in a different way. I find that you can take into consideration such effects as you describe above, and I mean this in all sincerity. In fact you can purposely use the tunning hammer in such a way as to experience a pitch rise after releasing the pin, and you dont have to bend the pin in all kinds of contorted positions to do this. On some pianos its best to use a pull on the pin which leans towards this effect, on other pianos its more appropriate to use a pull that requires a bit of over pull and a drop back down to pitch. I think to some degree we all do this either consciously or not depending on the piano. In any case each and every piano has its own little quirks. I dont really believe in a one size fits all hammer technique. I have the same starting position true enough, but just how I approach twisting the pin depends on the piano. -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. Bergen, Norway
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