May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's

[David Ilvedson, RPT]

What I really love about Steinway verticals is bringing it up just to pitch
and coming back for the second pass and it is now 10% above pitch?  How does
it do that?

David I.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <tunenbww@clear.lakes.com>
To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's


>Addendum to the message below: keep the torque on the tuning pin with your
>tuning hammer and gradually release it as you deliver the blows. Hopefully
>that makes it clearer than mud.
>
>Paul Chick
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul <tunenbww@clear.lakes.com>
>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:09 PM
>Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's
>
>
>> Terry
>> A technique I use that seems to help: when the string comes to pitch,
hold
>> your tuning hammer and hit the note with several quick firm blows. Ease
>back
>> on the hammer without turning the pin. There seems to be an equalization
>of
>> tension between the tuning pin and string segment above the speaking
>length.
>> I haven't thought this through as to why it works, but it does. Maybe
some
>> one who knows will explain it.
>>
>> Paul Chick
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Terry Sheetz <tsheetz@mediaone.net>
>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's
>>
>>
>> > I tune these new for delivery in a Seinway dealer's shop/warehouse. The
>> three
>> > in-house tuners spread the "opportunity" :-)  around so none of us has
>to
>> do
>> > them all, though it seems I as the rookie am allowed more frequent
>> > "opportunity". On a day's tuning list of 10-15 various pianos we tend
to
>> tune
>> > around them on the list until they are the only ones left. I was given
>two
>> very
>> > good suggestions about tuning them that really help. First, use the
>tuning
>> > lever in a 10 o'clock position. Secondly, avoid taking the string
>> high--this
>> > helps the rendering problem as it is tough to get it back down stably.
>> > Other suggestions?
>> >
>> > Terry Sheetz
>> > Associate
>> >
>> >
>> > Farrell wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ahhh, the 1098. Sounds like Christopher has not had the pleasure yet.
>Go
>> > > find a new one - the experience will be intensified. I learned to
tune
>> on a
>> > > 1098. Actually, it was a 1098 that first introduced me to piano
>> technology -
>> > > i.e. by trying to understand the 40,000 (slight exaggeration - but
>only
>> > > slight) defects in the piano.
>> > >
>> > > The main feature is tight tuning pins, no plate bushings, and a
>> > > "V-bar"/pressure bar design that does not easily permit wire to slide
>on
>> > > through. So, you have nearly-Baldwin-tight tuning pins to deal with,
>> along
>> > > with wire that will not pass (easily) from the speaking length to the
>> > > segment at the tuning pin, and no plate bushings make for Big-Time
>> > > flagpoling tuning pins and speaking lengths whose pitch rises or
drops
>> in
>> > > 1/10-step increments. And that is on a 1098 that does not have other
>> > > problems.
>> > >
>> > > They get slightly more mellow with age because the pins loosen up,
but
>> the
>> > > speaking length still does not render well. And if you have one that
>is
>> 25
>> > > years old, it's likely falling apart anyway. I have several that I
>> service
>> > > regularly and they don't bother me too much. You get used to them if
>you
>> see
>> > > enough. But they STILL are the among the most challenging pianos to
>> tune.
>> > > It's such a pitty though, because there is no good reason for it.
>> > >
>> > > If you like this kind of product badgering, please email me
privately.
>> > > Thanks for the opportunity to sound off!  :-)
>> > >
>> > > BTW, Christopher, where you from?
>> > >
>> > > Terry Farrell
>> > > Piano Tuning & Service
>> > > Tampa, Florida
>> > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Christopher Witmer" <cdwitmer@spamcop.net>
>> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:26 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's
>> > >
>> > > > Okay, as a newbie I don't want to be the only one not in the know:
>> > > > what's so bad about a Steinway 1098? Why don't you like servicing
>> them?
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> >
>>
>
>