May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's

[Paul]

Addendum to the message below: keep the torque on the tuning pin with your
tuning hammer and gradually release it as you deliver the blows. Hopefully
that makes it clearer than mud.

Paul Chick
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul <tunenbww@clear.lakes.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's


> Terry
> A technique I use that seems to help: when the string comes to pitch, hold
> your tuning hammer and hit the note with several quick firm blows. Ease
back
> on the hammer without turning the pin. There seems to be an equalization
of
> tension between the tuning pin and string segment above the speaking
length.
> I haven't thought this through as to why it works, but it does. Maybe some
> one who knows will explain it.
>
> Paul Chick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Sheetz <tsheetz@mediaone.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's
>
>
> > I tune these new for delivery in a Seinway dealer's shop/warehouse. The
> three
> > in-house tuners spread the "opportunity" :-)  around so none of us has
to
> do
> > them all, though it seems I as the rookie am allowed more frequent
> > "opportunity". On a day's tuning list of 10-15 various pianos we tend to
> tune
> > around them on the list until they are the only ones left. I was given
two
> very
> > good suggestions about tuning them that really help. First, use the
tuning
> > lever in a 10 o'clock position. Secondly, avoid taking the string
> high--this
> > helps the rendering problem as it is tough to get it back down stably.
> > Other suggestions?
> >
> > Terry Sheetz
> > Associate
> >
> >
> > Farrell wrote:
> >
> > > Ahhh, the 1098. Sounds like Christopher has not had the pleasure yet.
Go
> > > find a new one - the experience will be intensified. I learned to tune
> on a
> > > 1098. Actually, it was a 1098 that first introduced me to piano
> technology -
> > > i.e. by trying to understand the 40,000 (slight exaggeration - but
only
> > > slight) defects in the piano.
> > >
> > > The main feature is tight tuning pins, no plate bushings, and a
> > > "V-bar"/pressure bar design that does not easily permit wire to slide
on
> > > through. So, you have nearly-Baldwin-tight tuning pins to deal with,
> along
> > > with wire that will not pass (easily) from the speaking length to the
> > > segment at the tuning pin, and no plate bushings make for Big-Time
> > > flagpoling tuning pins and speaking lengths whose pitch rises or drops
> in
> > > 1/10-step increments. And that is on a 1098 that does not have other
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > They get slightly more mellow with age because the pins loosen up, but
> the
> > > speaking length still does not render well. And if you have one that
is
> 25
> > > years old, it's likely falling apart anyway. I have several that I
> service
> > > regularly and they don't bother me too much. You get used to them if
you
> see
> > > enough. But they STILL are the among the most challenging pianos to
> tune.
> > > It's such a pitty though, because there is no good reason for it.
> > >
> > > If you like this kind of product badgering, please email me privately.
> > > Thanks for the opportunity to sound off!  :-)
> > >
> > > BTW, Christopher, where you from?
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > > Piano Tuning & Service
> > > Tampa, Florida
> > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Christopher Witmer" <cdwitmer@spamcop.net>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: May Their Practice rooms be filled with 1098's
> > >
> > > > Okay, as a newbie I don't want to be the only one not in the know:
> > > > what's so bad about a Steinway 1098? Why don't you like servicing
> them?
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> >
>