Newton writes: >Why bother! Tell them different pitches cost you more time >therefore more cost to them and charge it. If it gets them where >it hurts they change their tune quickly enough. Hmm, not to advocate no devil or anything, now tripping over this soapbox....... As far as 441 goes, that is just 4 little bitty cents away from 440. In a stage environment, with people, horns, and lights all getting heated up during a performance, it isn't uncommon for there to be a two or three cent change over the course of the evening. Pianos are often cooler before the show, so 441 to start might be what these people have found effective in minimizing problems. With a machine that compensates for the difference, 4 cents is easy to do in one careful pass. (Any more than 5 and I go through twice). It is one beauty of the ETD. On the other side of machina, I got this soap right here.............., (IMHO), a tuning machine is of little value when the piano has "sagged" unevenly throughout its scale during a hard first half under the lights and inspiration of, say, Liszt and Brahms and the tuner has perhaps 10 minutes to deal with it. It is at these times that the judgement and ear of the tuner must make the maximum repair to the harmony in a triage sort of way. Sometimes unisons absorb all available time and the octaves are left alone, perhaps in some "angelic", choral stretch. I have heard beautiful music out of a piano that "expanded" between tuning and performance. (think an extra 20 cents over three octaves!) When there is time to do more than unisons, the piano's worst octaves will have to be thrown together, but there are some very harsh thirds waiting for the tuner that haphardly makes octaves out of things. ( don't ask me how I know) This is a point that the beginning tuner should grasp; that the machine will get you up and tuning very quickly, but if you neglect learning how to tune aurally, there will be a place you can't go, i.e. the performance platform. If you do find yourself in this situation, and have only a machine to give you information, the odds are very good that you will do damage to your reputation. There is no substitute for being able to aurally judge all the normal interval widths, and being able to arrange them in one or more consistant, acceptable temperaments. Regards Ed Foote RPT
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