In a message dated 12/15/99 5:53:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, btrout@desupernet.net (Brian Trout) writes: << Although I don't play nearly as much as I used to, I never did find any particular key intimidating. Not only do I play in the typical C, F, & G... I also really enjoy playing in F#, C#, & B. (One of my personal favorites in F# is an arrangement of Silent Night, >> I don't mean at all to be disrespectful and I know that Brian has expressed his preference for and dislike of HT's but if it is *really* ET, how could F# be any different from F, except for the pitch? You can tune a temperament that would pass the PTG RPT Tuning Exam with all scores above 90, which would be considered to be of the highest recognized caliber and still tune a Reverse Well Temperament. I wonder if you like Silent Night in this key because in fact, it has a milder, gentler nature than the key of F but you are not consciously aware of it? <<What a relief! I thought I was imagining things since certain frequent proponents of HT announced there was no color to ET. I have perfect pitch (a not particularly strong form) and I here different colors for each key in ET. Andrew Remillard>> <<If, for example, you've listened to nothing but a well-tuned, equal-tempered piano your whole life, then your "perfect pitch" will consist of stretched octaves and smoothly progressing thirds, sixths and tenths, and other instruments and temperaments might sound out of tune to you. -- Thomas A. Cole, RPT Santa Cruz, CA>> <> I greatly respect all of the above people who are quoted here. There most surely are ways to achieve tone "color" from the piano by the way you play it that is not attributable to the way it is tuned, i.e. legato/stacatto, they way you "punch" or gently press the keys, use of the pedal, manipulation of the rhythm, etc. Also, different pianos do have their own "voice" or "color" and it can be changed through voicing, regulation and tuning. The "color" spoken of in Temperament Tuning has only to do with the exact combinations of Slowly Beating Intervals (SBI) and Rapidly Beating Intervals (RBI). As Newton pointed out, this is very real and usually perceptible by the listener. Piano Technicians who have mastered ET and have never used anything else as a regular part of their practice are sometimes shocked by any temperament that varies from ET by any more than the very slightest amount. This is understandable and I consider it to be a matter of personal preference, something to which everyone has a right, just as they do an opinion. However, some piano technicians habitually tune a near ET, one which is within the parameters of professional acceptance and which does have some variety within it but that variance goes unrecognized for what it is. There is a very mild form of "color", analogous to that of the HT's that is in their temperaments. People get used to that kind of sound too and prefer it. I know of three very respected local technicians who always do this but who are unaware of the non-ET nature of their work. I know of a Jazz pianist who likes one of these technician's tunings but does not like mine. He claims, as Brian does, that he likes to play this technician's tunings "in the black keys". He says I make the piano "pop" in the keys he likes while his tuner tunes "smooth and mellow". Of course, he blames it on the known fact that I do something other than ET while *his* tuner does it the right way, the only way, ET. Trying to explain what Reverse Well is to him and that it is what he really is experiencing would be in no one's best interest, so I just let him believe what he wants to believe. So, in my opinion, anytime someone claims that they hear some kind of distinction between keys in ET, where by definition, there is none, this is what I suspect first of all. It is not really ET they are talking about. There is another possibility, however. Just as a black & white photo has all of the colors we expect to see altered and made into shades of gray, we still recognize the image for what it is. We don't see the natural colors but our mind can imagine them as if they were there, even if we don't do it consciously. Therefore, I think that some people who tune a true ET or have their piano tuned in a true ET have learned to like it best that way. There are many photographers incidentally who prefer to work in Black & White. The people who like a true ET have learned to appreciate that lack of contrast and their perception of it is able to imagine a difference in texture simply by changing the place on the keyboard where the harmony is played. They don't want their temperament "colorized" any more than they want to see one of Ted Turner's colorized classic films. Now, if anyone else can explain how "color" can be heard when there clearly, by design and intention can be no distinction, I am open to reading an explanation of it. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin
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