Soundboard backposts ??

Delwin D Fandrich pianobuilders@olynet.com
Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:01:17 -0800


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Brekne <richardb@c2i.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:04 PM
Subject: Soundboard backposts ??


> Hi list..
>
> Got into a discussion today with another piano tech which prompted me to
> put the following question to you experts out there.
>
> Given an old beater with a flat soundboard, perhaps a bit of negative
> crown... What would the effect be of glueing in wood pieces between the
> ribs and the back frame beams to force and hold the soundboard into a
> artificial crown ??
>
> sounds off the wall, I know... but I am curious to hear your responses.
>
> Richard Brekne
> I.C.P.T.G.  N.P.T.F.
> Bergen, Norway

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Richard,

Crown, by itself, is not the issue.  It is the relationship between the
strings and the soundboard.  To function as a transducer, the soundboard
must be able to move in response to the vibrating energy in the string.
Putting a solid coupler between the backpost and the soundboard would
(could) force a curve into the soundboard, but I'd hardly call it crown.
Now the string will have to move both the soundboard and the backpost to
create any sound energy.  Backposts are often fairly difficult to move.

Garold Beyer has replied with a reference to the old practice of installing
springs between the backposts and the soundboard at strategic spots.  This
was a bit of a fad back in the mid 1960's and the early 1970's.  Several
rebuilders, myself included, had been experimenting with this notion from
time to time.  I installed these devices -- the best were 1957 Corvette
progressively wound valve springs -- on several old upright and grand pianos
with varying degrees of success.  (Actually, there was nothing magic about
1957 Corvette valve springs.  I had owned one and at one time had replaced
the heads.  I had a few of the old springs floating around.)

The practice was eventually ridiculed out of existence by the more
traditional and more "respected" members of the trade as being a
non-professional repair, but I have come back to the idea several times over
the years.  I guess I am non-professional enough to wonder just what the
dynamics of the process are.  And to not worry overly much about what
tradition thinks of some of my strange ideas.  Were I doing the same type of
rebuilding today that I did then I would probably still be experimenting
with them.

As for not being "professional," well, I put soundboard springs into the
same category as all of the CA pinblock repairs I read about.  And the same
principle applies: Yes, the piano needs a new pinblock (soundboard), but for
a nominal amount of money -- compared to a new pinblock (soundboard) -- this
repair will effect some improvement and possibly postpone the inevitable for
a few more years.  It will not tune (sound) as well (good) as a properly
remanufactured instrument, but it will be better than it was. And for a lot
less money.

Regards,

Del
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Designer & Builder
Hoquiam, Washington  USA
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