List, In some Euro pianos, I'm aware of what could be considered "minimal aftertouch". Some may be inclined to say none. My first experience was long ago with an old Bechstein grand (leather key bushings maybe?). I'm now faced with an old Ibach that brings back memories of that Bechstein. I've been asked to do _something_ with the piano. Considering it was built in 1913... well, let's just say my initial suggestion wasn't accepted very well ! %-} When I tested the piano from a pianist's standpoint, it was like playing the end of a kitchen table. There was no tactile feedback to the player as to where the bottom of key travel actually was. I didn't have time do pull the action to check or measure anything. However, from a technical standpoint, I have the following questions: Anyone with more experience with old Ibachs? Do they (originally) qualify for the 'minimum' aftertouch phenomenon? Are new keyframe cloth/felts going to help a little/lot/none? Will I have room to play with key height/dip parameters (keyslip, f/b, cheekblocks)? On a related matter, same piano. I last played a -new- Ibach about 18 months ago. Since I only played it for about 20 seconds, I don't remember the touch, because it was strident enough to break glass, and it hurt my ears! Speaking of strident... This old one is just the opposite... no power, gutless wonder. If -real- cotton balls were ever used to make piano hammers, this is the one. The hammers are shot, are being considered for replacement, and are really not good indicators. I plan to do a few samples with new token hammers to get a better feel. However, assuming crown, bearing are okay (which I don't know), what -should- I expect as a "signature" sound for this instrument? A pluck test tells me there's more than is being provided by cot... um, hammers, but that I might not expect more than a warm, cushy, Knabe-ish sound on completion of work. If so, I can live with it, but I'd like some input from those who have dealt with the brand and the era. Summary: I _am_ trying to change the aftertouch part -- it's currently unacceptable to the player (although she didn't know why). I'm _not_ trying to make the piano into something it was never intended to be in terms of power or dynamics. TIA, Jim Harvey, RPT Greenwood, SC harvey@greenwood.net ________________________ Greenwood: the land that time forgot.
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