fixing plate flange/block gap

Don drose@dlcwest.com
Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:19:55 -0600


Hi all,



Well why not consider using something simple like waxed paper to make
release very possible.


At 03:43 AM 10/19/98 -0700, you wrote:
>God help the tech who wants to get this repair apart in twenty years to
>replace the pinblock.  Sorry,  I don't think this is a good repair
>because it makes proper repair impossible at a later date.  It cannot be
>assumed that their is enough graphite or other material on the flange and
>webbing to constitute a good release agent for epoxy seperation.
>
>
>Dale Fox
>
>
>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:30:39 -0700 Robert Goodale
><Robert.Goodale@NAU.EDU> writes:
>>Larry J. Messerly wrote:
>>
>>> Found also that there is a gap running almost the length of the 
>>plate
>>> flange that I can stick a business card single or folded into.
>>> 
>>> Suggestions on repairs would be much appreciated.,  Wedges, 
>>MarineTex,
>>> West System epoxy???
>>
>>I've come across two extreme examples of this, one of which was a 
>>piano
>>of Asian ancestry in which a dealer didn't want to bother with. The
>>other was on a Steinway "S" which had been rebuilt. This might sound a
>>little extreme, but worked very well.
>>
>>You will need to flip the piano upside down. Obviously this will 
>>require
>>some helpers and the action will need to be removed. If possible do 
>>this
>>on some nice padded heavy saw horses. If you use three or four well
>>built ones it should be enough to hold the weight of the piano
>>reliably.  What you will be doing here is filling the gap with epoxy 
>>but
>>there are two very critical points before hand. The first one is that
>>you will need to apply masking tape to each end of the plate so that 
>>the
>>epoxy will not run out the ends. The second is that you will have to
>>pre-treat the gap with a little fast curing epoxy. I use the West 
>>System
>>#G5, (PianoTek). This is important because it will cure in about 10
>>minutes and seal the bottom of the gap. You will not be using very 
>>much
>>here, just enough to cover the bottom since this type of epoxy doesn't
>>have much strength.  If this step omitted you seriously risk the
>>stronger long-cure epoxy to leak past the block and down through the
>>plate webing. Once the fast-cure epoxy has hardened you may fill the 
>>gap
>>with the good stuff. I use the West Syetem 105 with the 206 hardener,
>>(PianoTek). You may need to apply the epoxy a second time to 
>>completely
>>fill it up. As you had suggested, a few wedges inserted might not be a
>>bad idea as well. This method seemed to work well for me, perhaps you
>>will have luck with it.
>>
>>Rob Goodale, RPT
>>
>
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Regards,
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