No Subject: Enough

[atonal@planet.eon.net]

> From:          Billbrpt@aol.com
> Date:          Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:30:06 EST
> To:            JIMRPT@aol.com, pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject:       Re: No Subject
> Reply-to:      pianotech@ptg.org

> 
> In a message dated 98-02-05 09:38:58 EST, you write:
>       Bill Bremmer:
> <<  Owen Jorgensen, the gentle quiet man that he is has been threatened with
> expulsion from PTG for his research.">>
>    
> << You have made other serious allegations of this nature on the list.  I
> cannot think that such unsupported assertions/allegations can have any
> positive effect on this list or on PTG. This list is for the free and open
> exchange of ideas, methods, and opinions and not for such remarks.   Mr.
> Bremmer I will ask one time that you either provide support for such serious
> allegations or refrain from making them.
>  James A. Bryant, RPT >>
>    
>      This story is common knowledge, Jim.  The fact that it happened long ago
> and the guy who was after Owen was a nut is immaterial.  The practice of using
> HT's has been driven underground by people who ridicule, attack, condemn and
> threaten those who use and advocate them.
> 
>    I see plenty of off-topic posts on the list and plenty of material that
> really has no merit or value.  My post refers to a factual incident and was
> used as an example to support my position.  I can supply more examples, plenty
> more, but I'm going to let it go for now.
> 
>    The discussion of HT's need not be political but if you insist on making it
> so, it will be.  I'm here to talk about them and other areas in which I have
> an interest and expertise just like everyone else.  I'd be more than content
> just to talk about the subject, supply technical data, explain concepts, etc.
> but there seems to be those who just don't want that subject discussed at all
> and will go to any legnth to find an angle to supress it.  That kind of
> resistance just won't work with me.
> 
>    If you don't want to read about HT's, then don't read my posts.  I'm also
> very concerned about what the general public might see on this list and I've
> been candid about the things I thought were improper.  I made no allegations
> in this post so there is no need to support what I said.  If you don't believe
> what happened to Owen, ask him yourself.  I heard it in his class,  I've heard
> the story more than once.  As I said, it's common knowledge, I didn't make it
> up.
> 
>   Just get over it and accept the fact that HT's are here to stay, it's a
> growing movement, they are a "normal", ethical and valid way to tune the piano
> and they are practiced by more than just a few "fanatics".  If I have anything
> to do with it, there use will become widespread much more quickly than they
> would have without my input, efforts and persistence.  It is my right and
> priviledge to pursue my own area of interest and I intend to continue.  I have
> a lot of private mail asking me to and those who write to me often remark that
> you on this List who are giving me so much resistance have very little if
> anything of worthy substance to offer.
> 
> Bill Bremmer RPT
> Madison, Wisconsin
> 
> 
So let me get this straight: A fanatic who attacks an established 
expert is wrong, but a fanatic who attacks an established status quo 
is right..........


Enough 


Rob Kiddell, 
Registered Piano Technician, PTG
atonal@planet.eon.net