bridgecaps/hide glue

Stephen Birkett SBIRKETT@envsci.uoguelph.ca
Fri, 22 Sep 1995 13:08:32 -0400 (EDT)


Received the following comments from Paul Poletti re: hide glue and
bridge caps. He suggested I post these on the list. I will forward
any replies.

Stephen Birkett (Fortepianos)
Authentic Reproductions of 18th and 19th Century Pianos
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Just a quick reply to the [hide glue / bridge cap thread].

Anybody who says stuff like this [i.e. susceptibility to atmospheric
moisture etc.] about hide glue is only demonstrating their complete
ignorance of the topic, both in terms of practical experience and
technical knowledge. They should read some industrial technical
reports on adhesives and their applications. Hide glue is still used
for many applications today because it is the best glue for that
specific use. When used properly, it is stronger than PVA's
(Titebond), does not creep when cold like all PVA's can, and is no
more susceptible to atmospheric moisture. To say that hide glue can
come apart from atmospheric moisture is really only to make evident
that fact that one has never done any professional restoration work
in which you have to take apart hide glue joints with soaking or
steaming. No one who has would believe this nonsense for an instant:
well-made hide glue joints are exceedingly stubborn things. We took
out the treble block of a piano from 1828: it took three days of
injecting hot water and alcohol into the joint, finally had to be
broken open with reverse clamps, and there was lots of tear-out. And
this in a piano that had sat on its back in water so long that the
spine rotted almost completely away. The same piano also has a bent
laminated bridge (two pieces) that is so well glued you can hardly
find the seam.

People can go ahead and believe this sort of nonsense about hide
glue if they want a good excuse for never really mastering their
trade. The use of hide glue, like any professional tool or material,
has to be learned, but once you learn it, it is amazing stuff. Its
flexibility in open/setting times (depending on grade and mix) and
its eternal reversibility make it the best. It is not idiot-proof.
You have to know what you're buying and how to use it. It is a
professional product for professional woodworkers. Amateurs should
stick to the plastic yellow and white stuff.

The only bridge cap I've had any experience with was on a c.1850
French upright. The thing had been restrung with modern wire, overly
strung, and the pins where tearing through the wood from the extra
tension. I removed the cap and found that the splitting was running
through the lower laminates as well. But NOT along the glue lines.
I've never seen a cap on an earlier piano, no matter what the manner
of bridge bending. I suspect capping was done to provide a smooth
surface for boring the pin holes, since the glue seams could
influence the run of the drill bit, making it hard to accurately
control the position of any pin which must stand almost right on top
of a glue seam. In earlier bridges, the treble bend is made by sawing
the bridge down its middle to about middle c, and then regluing it on
a bent form. Since the seam runs down the middle, no pin ever needs
be close to it, thus no cap. By the way, I've seen many such
bridges, but I've NEVER seen one in which the central glue line is
failing from "atmospheric moisture".

Paul Poletti,
Poletti and Tuinman Fortepianos,
Utrecht,
The Netherlands




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