[CAUT] Press vs Stab voicing (was Re: The Importance of "Subject:")

[Paul T Williams]

That's what Wally Brooks showed us on pre voicing the Naturals on the 
medium shoulder area.  Stab, not hard, straight down instead of toward the 
moulding.  It does work.

I'm still not sold on stabbing vs. pushing.  I do neither, but rather a 
definate push/stab....sort of inbetween the two.  I also only use one 
needle...a usual #6 or 7.  It takes a bit longer, but I feel I can 
control/feel  more of what's going on.  With final voicing, I am very 
gentle, only pushing a single needle just a bit in  and then listening. Of 
course, this means pushing the action in and out many times.

How do you all do the really fine final voicing, especially near or (dare 
I say (which I do) on the crown itself?) 

Paul




From:
"David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
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Date:
06/12/2010 08:29 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Press vs Stab voicing (was Re:       The     Importance      of 
"Subject:")



In these cases I find that going into the felt at an angle rather than
straight in helps, almost as if you are separating the outer layers. 
Rather
than 90 degrees to the surface try penetrating at 45 degrees or 60 
degrees.
Of course pliers works too, so does Snuggle (or so I hear). 

David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com


-----Original Message-----
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron
Nossaman
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:26 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Press vs Stab voicing (was Re: The Importance of
"Subject:")

David Love wrote:
> In these situations forgo the rule about no crown voicing and just deep
> needle all the way around the hammer including directly into the crown. 

I have no such rule! <G> I tried a little of that, and not a 
heck of a lot happened. I literally couldn't pound three 
needles deeply into the hammers, and I wasn't really 
interested in spending three times as long with one needle. It 
was a Schafer & Sons, after all. Since I wasn't apparently 
releasing much internal compression poking holes, I thought it 
likely safer in that case to use the Vise-Grip.
Ron N


> On Jun 11, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Ron Nossaman wrote:
> 
>> I recently got the "opportunity" to voice down a Schafer & Sons 



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