[CAUT] Re Retesting

[jrpiano]

It was just a thought.
Obviously they would not lose the RPT status, but it would indicate a 
willingness to progress.
The progress card would indicate that. Of course the person could rewrite, 
and eventually pass, but then, they would know that step, be it voicing or 
regulation.
It was just an idea I was throwing out, for possible further thought.
I know I have been attending voicing classes at conventions for years, and I 
always learn things, even although I might have taken the same course, from 
the same instructor before.
I took Roger Jolly's, and the Andre Oorebeek's course, and finally I am 
beginning to see the light.
As has been said before, the RPT is just a start in the process, and not the 
be all end all.

John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re Retesting


Hi John,

(To all, I'm also thinking about CAUT Curriculum in this thread.)


I like your thoughts below, and if we were in a perfect world where nobody 
cheated, nor grew old, nor had a bad day, it would probably work. But when 
you add a pass/fail you add pressure, then the soap operas begin...

What happens when someone fails? Do you offer retakes? If a person fails 
does that person lose RPT status? What is the appeal/grievance system? Etc. 
etc. The devil is certainly in the details, and if everyone passed every 
time that would also indicate a bogus system.

If it is just an "attendance required" what if they sleep through it, but 
attend? I saw a tenured High School teacher in a "required certification 
meeting" where attendance was mandatory and he and a friend played chess the 
entire two hours, yet he got the required "whatever-it-was" because he was 
there...


Frankly, I wonder if all RPTs could pass the tests again. For fun I 
frequently test myself against the SAT, just to keep on my toes. My score is 
NOT 100% every time <G> but it is usually pretty good. Some days are better 
than others. Once not long ago I got less than the 80%! (FAILED!!!) It 
ticked me off so I immediately retested myself and got in the 90s. But isn't 
that like cheating at solitaire? I wonder how I'll do at age 95?

Keep thinking. It keeps us all on our toes.


Best,
Jim Busby



If not retesting, why not a class at conventions with a test.
The classes could be more involved than the original tests. Covering
different areas each year.
It would increase the attendance at conventions.
Attendees would be advancing there knowledge. There could be a book that
would be stamped each time. The book having been issued when the RPT status
was reached.
This would prove to all, that progress was being made, and the person was
not stagnating, content with the initial pass.
John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca





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