[CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch

Tue Dec 14 15:50:50 MST 2010

Wool cloth punchings come in different densities and thicknesses. They can also be pressed or ironed before installing.
Ed S.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul T Williams 
  To: davidlovepianos at comcast.net ; caut at ptg.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch

  Mushy....as in old and yes, mushy!  Not comparing to new punchings! The new ones are pretty good. I still like the crescendo's and have put them on our concert grands. The pros have given the thumbs up on regulations!  I haven't gone as far as putting them on any others yet.  Maybe the piano profs pianos.  The others....they'll never know the diff. Perhaps I might put them on a couple practice grands to see if the students recognize any change, but I doubt it.   I have 2 identical Steinway M's next to each other.  If I regulate them perfectly and then ask the GTA's to try each one right after each other, then; that would be the only way to tell if they know the difference. 

  It's a neat experiment and I may just do this.  I'm always into improving our pianos! 

  Paul 

        From:  "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>  
        To:  caut at ptg.org  
        Date:  12/14/2010 03:55 PM  
        Subject:  Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE:  aftertouch 

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  I don't think I'd characterize the punchings that aren't crescendo as "mushy". A good quality one is just less firm. Many of my customers prefer the feel of a somewhat softer landing and most of the time added power is not an issue. 

  David Love
  www.davidlovepianos.com 

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  From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> 
  Sender: caut-bounces at ptg.org 
  Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:15:40 -0600 
  To: <caut at ptg.org> 
  ReplyTo: caut at ptg.org 
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch 

  Weird again.  I've nothing but positive remarks from staff and student pianists regarding the punching changes.  Do they like the mushy feel of soft punchings?  I don't think any of them notice any tonal differences as claimed.  I really don't either, but love the feel when properly regulated. 

  Paul 

        From:  Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com>  
        To:  caut at ptg.org  
        Date:  12/14/2010 01:02 PM  
        Subject:  Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE:  aftertouch 

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  Weird indeed. I have removed all of the sets I have installed, to the immediate relief of all the pianists involved. 

  Kent 

  On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Jim Busby wrote: 

  Weird. My folks are 100% “love it”. 

  Jim 

  From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:00 PM
  To: caut at ptg.org
  Subject: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch 

  They do all that but they also hurt my fingers sometimes.  I’ve used them but I’ve also removed them.  Clearly defined regulation at the bottom is nice when you’re regulating but it’s not always that nice to play.  The reviews are mixed, in my book, and I wish I could tell you when and why.   

  David Love 
  www.davidlovepianos.com 

  From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Eder
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:26 PM
  To: caut at ptg.org
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] aftertouch (was Re: F..riction) 

  This squishiness of the felt is not a factor with Crescendo Punchings 
  Yes, they make it possible to have less aftertouch (and, therefore, more power) and still be clearly defined about where key dip ends with a reasonable landing (without feeling like concrete).  I have followed Andre Oorebeek's practice and install them routinely as part of every action job. 
  Alan Eder 
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jon Page <jonpage at pianocapecod.com>
  To: caut <caut at ptg.org>
  Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:07 am
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] aftertouch (was Re: F..riction) 
  Final check is 
  to take each key through escapement (slowly and controlled) and then 
  press to the bottom and compress the front punching a bit. The hammers 
  should each rise from drop the same amount, not much but definitely 
  some (1 mm?). 

  That's a lot of lost territory. This squishiness of the felt is not a factor with Crescendo Punchings. 
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  Regards,

  Jon Page 

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