[CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch

[Paul T Williams]

Mushy....as in old and yes, mushy!  Not comparing to new punchings! The 
new ones are pretty good. I still like the crescendo's and have put them 
on our concert grands. The pros have given the thumbs up on regulations! I 
haven't gone as far as putting them on any others yet.  Maybe the piano 
profs pianos.  The others....they'll never know the diff. Perhaps I might 
put them on a couple practice grands to see if the students recognize any 
change, but I doubt it.   I have 2 identical Steinway M's next to each 
other.  If I regulate them perfectly and then ask the GTA's to try each 
one right after each other, then; that would be the only way to tell if 
they know the difference.

It's a neat experiment and I may just do this.  I'm always into improving 
our pianos!

Paul



From:
"David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To:
caut at ptg.org
Date:
12/14/2010 03:55 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE:  aftertouch



I don't think I'd characterize the punchings that aren't crescendo as 
"mushy". A good quality one is just less firm. Many of my customers prefer 
the feel of a somewhat softer landing and most of the time added power is 
not an issue.


David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com

From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> 
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:15:40 -0600
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch

Weird again.  I've nothing but positive remarks from staff and student 
pianists regarding the punching changes.  Do they like the mushy feel of 
soft punchings?  I don't think any of them notice any tonal differences as 
claimed.  I really don't either, but love the feel when properly 
regulated. 

Paul 



From: 
Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com> 
To: 
caut at ptg.org 
Date: 
12/14/2010 01:02 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE:  aftertouch




Weird indeed. I have removed all of the sets I have installed, to the 
immediate relief of all the pianists involved. 


Kent 


On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Jim Busby wrote: 

Weird. My folks are 100% “love it”. 
  
Jim 
  
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
David Love
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:00 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: [CAUT] Crescendo punchings was RE: aftertouch 
  
They do all that but they also hurt my fingers sometimes.  I’ve used them 
but I’ve also removed them.  Clearly defined regulation at the bottom is 
nice when you’re regulating but it’s not always that nice to play.  The 
reviews are mixed, in my book, and I wish I could tell you when and why. 
  
David Love 
www.davidlovepianos.com 
  
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan 
Eder
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:26 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] aftertouch (was Re: F..riction) 
  
  
This squishiness of the felt is not a factor with Crescendo Punchings 
Yes, they make it possible to have less aftertouch (and, therefore, more 
power) and still be clearly defined about where key dip ends with a 
reasonable landing (without feeling like concrete).  I have followed Andre 
Oorebeek's practice and install them routinely as part of every action 
job. 
Alan Eder 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Page <jonpage at pianocapecod.com>
To: caut <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:07 am
Subject: Re: [CAUT] aftertouch (was Re: F..riction) 
Final check is 
to take each key through escapement (slowly and controlled) and then 
press to the bottom and compress the front punching a bit. The hammers 
should each rise from drop the same amount, not much but definitely 
some (1 mm?). 
  
That's a lot of lost territory. This squishiness of the felt is not a 
factor with Crescendo Punchings. 
-- 

Regards,

Jon Page 




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