[CAUT] Fwd: CAUT Certification:... (Ed Sutton)

Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel) WOLFLEEL at UCMAIL.UC.EDU
Wed Jun 24 17:22:08 MDT 2009


I am loving this discussion...organisms (and organizations) need to grow to remain healthy.

Eric
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Paul-

Well, don't stop there!

Ed
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT Certification:... (Ed Sutton)

Ed and Israel:

This concept is already being implemented, thus proving the viability of the idea, at CSPT. In discussions with Fred, Eric, and others, I have redesigned the 2nd option in our advanced curriculum (Concert Prep and Institutional Management) with the suggested CAUT syllabus as a core. The program is a year long, and designed for students who have completed the first year, or who are already RPT. It involves internships with a variety of musical venues here in Chicago as well as intense practice and testing in technical areas, as well as some hands-on deeper major restoration topics here in the shop.

Paul

In a message dated 6/24/2009 4:53:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ed440 at mindspring.com writes:

Israel-

Looking ahead, hopefully, into an uncertain future, where our current models
of training and study may fade away or change into new models, I like the
potentials in this approach.

First a person would become an RPT, then there could be a choice of classes
and exams through which a person creates his/her particular career, shaped
around individual talents, interests and resources. Perhaps PTG would not be
the educational provider so much as the agency that creates the syllabus,
accredits teachers and administers exams, or perhaps the umbrella under
which individuals could offer courses (not that different from what we
already do).

In my dream world of happy, curious, interested people, such an open
syllabus would be an invitation to learn and grow, and such a system might
encourage people with special areas of knowledge and experience to create
new courses of study.

Ed


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>> Would there be value in a system of classes and exams like this?
>>
>> Ed Sutton
>>
> Ed,
>
> This sort of model has been discussed and could be a possible solution for
> some of the issues that have cropped up in connection with this proposal.
> The model for this would is the medical profession, where all
> practitioners hold the title MD, but each specialty does not have a
> distinct title associated with it. Thus, someone who completes CAUT
> training would still use the title RPT without any enhancements, but would
> be able to state on resumes, advertisements, job applications, websites
> etc. the fact that they completed specialized training in the field of
> institutional piano service and management and hold a certificate to that
> effect.  When coupled with a promotion campaign by the PTG  aimed
> exclusively at educational institutions - and specifically at hiring
> officers in the music and HR departments  - such a program would
> accomplish everything that is expected of a CAUT certification without
> introducing the sort of divisiveness and RPT promotion and branding issues
> that are feared by some persons opposed to the CAUT endorsement idea.
> Language to implement such a scheme has been suggested.
>
> Israel Stein


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