You can send her over here anytime ;>) What a great asset! I teach a
piano mechanics class every spring and 4 very capable grad students will
be taking it. I'm hoping they catch on, so I can put them to work!
Paul
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To:
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Date:
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Re: [CAUT] CAUT Digest, Vol 14, Issue 65
Alan, we have about 130 pianos, down from 150 a few years ago. I have a
most capable work study student for 15 hours per week; she is in her 3rd
year and has become invaluable. Her work includes but is not limited to
key rebushing, recovers backchecks, cleaning, removing damper systems and
replace all damper system felts etc. I do the final install and regulate
cutting my time in half. I cannot speak highly enough of her contribution.
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3. Re: student assistants (Paul T Williams)
4. Re: student assistants (Dr. Henry Nicolaides)
5. Re: student assistants (Dempsey Jr., Paul E)
6. Re: student assistants (Richard Murphy)
7. Re: student assistants (G Cousins)
8. Re: fundamental vs partials, was. Re: lowest note on Imp.
Bosey (Don Mannino)
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:57:33 -0500
From: G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>
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Just solo, hans.
Gerry C
WCUPA
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:50:02 -0500
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] student assistants
I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize student
assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
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able to train your assistants for.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:19:39 -0500
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Cute! Full-time?
Alan E.
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From: G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>
To: CAUT <caut at ptg.org>
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Just solo, hans.
Gerry C
WCUPA
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:50:02 -0500
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] student assistants
I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize student
assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
position is full-time or part-time, and the kind of tasks you have been
able to train your assistants for.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:47:07 -0600
From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
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Alan,
I'm alone in the piano care dept. I'm full time with 110 instruments.
Paul
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Date:
12/15/2009 05:55 AM
Subject:
[CAUT] student assistants
I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize student
assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:08:43 +0000
From: "Dr. Henry Nicolaides" <drsnic4 at hotmail.com>
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full time, 85 pianos, no assistants
Henry Nicolaides
Southern Illinois University
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:50:02 -0500
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] student assistants
I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize student
assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
position is full-time or part-time, and the kind of tasks you have been
able to train your assistants for.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:18:09 -0500
From: "Dempsey Jr., Paul E" <dempsey at marshall.edu>
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Full Time, 100 pianos, no assistants, student or otherwise.
Paul E. Dempsey, RPT
Piano Technician Sr.
Marshall University
Huntington, WV
304-696-5418
304-617-1149
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:21:04 -0600
From: Richard Murphy <rmurphy at siue.edu>
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Alan,
I am full time with one student worker. I have had a student since
2004-05. They check and water DC in about 21 pianos, rebush key bushings,
help restring, help move pianos, and practice room tuning of unisons. We
have 82 pianos plus 7 on loan, 2 harpsichords and 2 pipe organs, twenty
four
clavinovas in 2 piano labs.
Richard
On 12/15/09 5:50 AM, "reggaepass at aol.com" <reggaepass at aol.com> wrote:
> I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize
student
> assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
> position is full-time or part-time, and the kind of tasks you have been
able
> to train your assistants for.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Alan Eder
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:40:25 -0500
From: G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>
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Alan,
Full time
Inventory of 128
All S&S School
Gerry
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:19:39 -0500
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: Re: [CAUT] student assistants
Cute! Full-time?
Alan E.
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From: G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>
To: CAUT <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 3:57 am
Subject: Re: [CAUT] student assistants
Just solo, hans.
Gerry C
WCUPA
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:50:02 -0500
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] student assistants
I would like to get a "show of hands" of all the CAUTs who utilize student
assistants in some capacity or other. Please indicate whether your CAUT
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:23:03 -0800
From: "Don Mannino" <DMannino at kawaius.com>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] fundamental vs partials, was. Re: lowest note on
Imp. Bosey
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Wim,
". . .A man in the chorus in which I sing told me that humans cannot
hear a pitch that low . . ."
There is a difference between hearing a Pitch and hearing a sound.
Generally speaking, our ears and brains can sense vibrations as pitch
down to around 20hz. Below that, it sounds like a vibration, pulse,
beat, rattle, something like that. The sound loses coherence, and our
brains divide the pulses into individual noises rather than one sound
identifiable as a tone.
When you hear 7 beats a second in tuning a temperament, it sounds like
beats. If you keep going up with thirds into the treble, the very fast
beats can start to sound like a pitch or low tone. This is referred to
a resultant tone, and is the same affect that pipe organ makers use to
create the lowest octave (usually down to 16Hz C).
The church I used to attend in San Diego had an excellent organ, and you
could hear and feel the low 16 Hz C very strongly, and somehow it seemed
in tune with the upper partials, reinforcing the sound without actually
sounding like a pitch.
Here's an interesting little tidbit: A normal resting heartbeat of 60
beats per minute would be a 'C' pitch! OK, OK, I know - a change of
just 5 beats per minute throws the pitch way off. And if we want to
take inharmonicity into effect and match the stretch of a piano tuning,
our heartbeat should really be closer to 55 bpm :-)
Merry Christmas
Don Mannino
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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
wimblees at aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:35 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: [CAUT] fundamental vs partials, was. Re: lowest note on Imp.
Bosey
Nominally it would be about 16Hz. Take C5, which is about 513 if
memory serves, and divide by 2 5 times in succession. A0 is nominally
27.5 Hz (440 divided by 2 4 times). Once you get down that low, it is
more of a "beat" than a pitch. And not much fundamental is produced.
It's the partials you actually hear.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
It's interesting that you mention the fundamental not being "heard". A
man in the chorus in which I sing told me that humans cannot hear a
pitch that low, but that we only hear the partials. When I tuned one
once, I remember hearing the actual vibrations of the strings, which to
me sounds like a B19 Bomber, but I can't remember if I was actually
hearing the fundamental, or just the overtones.
Wim
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 7:37 am
Subject: Re: [CAUT] lowest note on Imp. Bosey
Nominally it would be about 16Hz. Take C5, which is about 513 if memory
serves, and divide by 2 5 times in succession. A0 is nominally 27.5 Hz
(440 divided by 2 4 times). Once you get down that low, it is more of a
"beat" than a pitch. And not much fundamental is produced. It's the
partials you actually hear.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico
fssturm at unm.edu
On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:40 AM, Wimblees at aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know what the lowest note on the Imperial Bosey is,
and how many beats per seconds it vibrates?
Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT
Piano Tuner/Technician
94-505 Kealakaa Str.
Mililani, Oahu, HI 96789
808-349-2943
www.Bleespiano.com <http://www.bleespiano.com/>
Author of:
The Business of Piano Tuning
available from Potter Press
www.pianotuning.com <http://www.pianotuning.com/>
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