An interesting range of perceptions seems to emerge here. Richard finds it hard to believe the worst of anyone. Wim is hyper-sensitive about his adoptive homeland, and David Love would seem to favor tried and true Gitmo techniques, knowing, as he must, that whatever information he gets won't be reliable =-O :-! If Craig Newmark is not prepared to change his business approach after recent events in Boston, this is not likely to garner attention from C-list administrators. While I doubt that this Las Vegas caper is a case of simple ignorance, it would, be interesting to know what violations of either Craig's List rules or actual law might be involved here. David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY At 08:10 PM 4/24/2009, you wrote: >Have your partner hold the string at the other end facing you. Turn >your end clockwise. Ask them which way the string is turning from >their orientation. The answer will be counterclockwise. So if you >turn clockwise and they turn counterclockwise the string will simply >be rotating and not twisting. For it to twist they must turn it >counterclockwise from their orientation. > >David Love >www.davidlovepianos.com > >From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of wimblees at aol.com >Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:15 PM >To: caut at ptg.org >Subject: Re: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud? > >Richard > >Everything you say is trued, but I don't appreciate the your >demeaning comment about Hawaii. This is not a Hawaii issue. This is >a common ordinary fraud issue, which should be about the same in any >state. According to Rob, he has seen the seller of pianos on Craig's >list many time, always advertising pianos in glorified ways. All I >am suggesting that perhaps this is something the "authorities" >should look into. >Wim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Adkins <RADKINS at coe.edu> >To: caut at ptg.org >Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 3:48 am >Subject: Re: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud? >It's not fraud they are just ignorant. The "registered in 1878" it >taken right off the plate, as you >can see from the photo on the ad. So that's where they got that. Go >by the serial number. Maybe you can write them a correction on the >date going by serial number. This info is available from Steinway's >website. I would not call the police!~~~duh....maybe that's how they >do it in Hawaii. > >Richard Adkins >Coe College > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:04:22 -0400 >From: <mailto:wimblees at aol.com>wimblees at aol.com >Subject: Re: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud? >To: <mailto:rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>rrg at unlv.nevada.edu, ><mailto:caut at ptg.org>caut at ptg.org >Message-ID: ><<mailto:8CB92E38EECF5EF-1498-3683 at webmail-dh41.sysops.aol.com>8CB92E38EECF5EF-1498-3683 at webmail-dh41.sysops.aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Rob > >If you suspect fraud, I would contact the local PD or the state's >attorney general's office. > > > > >Wim > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rob & Helen Goodale <<mailto:rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>rrg at unlv.nevada.edu> >To: <mailto:caut at ptg.org>caut at ptg.org >Sent: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 5:39 pm >Subject: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud? > > > >An interesting find on Craigs List.? Someone is selling an "Antique >Steinway upright" that was "registered in 1878", (whatever that's >supposed to mean).??It says that it?is "historical"?but >doesn't?provide any explanation?why.? From the picture it is plainly >obvious to be 1950s-ish with a modern cabinet.? It says it has >serial number 64810 which would?make the date about right.? However >the numbers which are partly visible?are completely the wrong font.? >It looks like rub-on numbers from an art store. > >? > >I have observed a rash of misleading or plain out fraudulent piano >ads lately.? Someone here has been selling gray markets out of their >home perpetually.? A different piano every week but always the same >living room in the picture.? I've also seen a lot of pianos lately >being?advertised as "rare" but no explanation as to why.? A while >back someone was selling an incredibly average old upright but the >ad went on paragraph after paragraph?proclaiming it to be?special >and rare and that you would be a fool to pass this opportunity up.? >Have any of you noticed this activity increasing in your area? > >? > ><http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/msg/1136859630.html>http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/msg/1136859630.html > >? > >Rob Goodale, RPT > >Las Vegas, NV > > >---------- >Green cleaning products -- do they work as well? ><http://home.aol.com/new_in_home/photogallerytall/_a/spring-cleaning-products-put-to-the-test/20090407180609990001?ncid=emlweushome00000001>Find >out now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut_ptg.org/attachments/20090425/18991b7b/attachment.html>
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