Every one criticizes the CBS years. Yet one thing I find consistently when I sit in front of a CBS Steinway is a powerful bass that outpowers every Steinway I hear, from decades before and after, even 25, 30, 40 years into its life. With a bass like that, you can bring up the treble 'till your heart's content. I can't remember the exact years CBS owned Steinway; maybe you can refresh my memory. I am speaking generally about that phase, I guess. We got 7 D's. We got a D from the 80's sitting in a band room that I think should be in the orchestra hall. It is a bigger sound then any of the newer stuff we got, but because it isn't new, we gotta leave it in the band room because everybody is goin' ape for the new ones. Maybe the room is throwing me off. Somebody else you know better than me probably disagrees. You want to say a Steinway can be re-born, I don't know if I am denying that. But it isn't happening a whole lot, because people have their own way of doing things. -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of A440A at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:23 PM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway or Forgery? Benjamin Sloane writes: << I think that we all need to understand that a maturation process is underway with every Steinway. I realize that seasoned Steinways, a process that can take decades, can have an edge on newer ones. But it is not because the factory is now doing something wrong. >> I have to take issue with that. The factory C&A department doesn't keep instruments for decades. They sell them off rather soon after the 5-10 year mark. I was given the explanation (from a very highly placed factory rep), that the soundboards lose some of their power before a decade is up and the best sound comes from a fresh one.. Soundboards die, that is a fact. Seasoning doesn't overcome poor execution of the design. An action that requires decades to achieve optimum performance is a conundrum, most are worn out by then. Other considerations: Pratt-Read keys were not an improvement over the earlier ones. The use of felt knuckles was a cost-cutting move, the later model cheek-block screws are a hassle, but cheaper than the older ones, etc. Some of the changes were lost because techs didn't get on board, ie, the re-engineered, larger, Teflon, if properly maintained, is, imho, superior to the wildly inconsistant felt that is now found in these actions. The discussion was originally about the reasons for the changes, ie, that the changes I have seen in the last 30 years were made for ease of production, speed of production, or lower cost, NOT improvement of the piano. If anybody would like a set of factory original damper felt, I will be glad to sell at half price! Regards, Ed Foote RPT http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html <BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621490x1201450102/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx %3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter421NO62)</HTML>
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