[CAUT] Another Baldwin Question/backchecks

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Tue Apr 14 14:33:38 PDT 2009


Yes!

The tail is pushing through... with a very easy of push. (on the bench 
test...) How else???<G> I guess you could push through the strings with 
something...  Tails need to be scored as well....very smooth..

I'll try the rest of the test tomorrow....I'm done....Due to my factor of 
40 hours per week unless I apply for extra hours!!  (what a joke)   How 
can someone take care of 110 pianos with a limit of 40 hours per week???? 
it just can't be done... I some how make it happen.  Most pianos suffer 
and the best ones get the attention!  I guess it's the same for a lot of 
you bloakes, eh?  (going OT?)

Great tips!

Thanks, Fred.

Paul





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A too shallow angle will mean that the tail can be pushed through, (if you 
use finger pressure downward on the hammer, on the bench with the hammer 
in check) rather than getting tighter. And that means inconsistency in 
actual performance. So experiment with changing the angle. I like to hold 
the wire with a slotted tool and bend the head with my hand (that is, 
pressing on the head, make a bend in the wire close to the head). Then you 
readjust check distance and try again. When you get something that works 
well, you can work with a straightedge and make all of them the same 
(checking from time to time to see that it is working, rather than adjust 
all of them and then say Whoops! should have been a little different <G>) 
A straightedge is easier than gauging angles individually.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico
fssturm at unm.edu



On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:


I aim for the gap between the bottom of hammer tail and top of backcheck 
at the point of let-off to be 1/16".  This all works with this piano. Now, 
my point is that the angle is off.  It's very shallow...like 11 or 12 
degrees rather than what I think it should be at 17 degrees...Is this 
right?  They just don't check right. 

Paul 



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Hi Wim,

I do this height check AT drop, not at full keystroke.  I aim for 1-2mm 
gap in this position.  Different strokes.

William R. Monroe



On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, <wimblees at aol.com> wrote: 
Ron

Is this with a normal stroke, or a let off/drop check stroke?

Wim 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Another Baldwin Question/backchecks

Paul T Williams wrote: 
> > Hi All. 
> > In regulating this Baldwin R I've been talking about. I'm narrowing in 
> (I hope) on a couple of issues hindering the regulation. I think the > 
backchecks are too high. 
> > Does anyone have the specs on how high up from the back of the key the 
> backchecks should be? 1966 Baldwin R. The angle is also wrong, but I > 
have that information, but I think, since these are not original, they > 
were not installed deep enough into the key, or the wires from whatever > 
supply house were too long. 
> > Any hints? 
> > Thanks people! 
> > Paul 
 
With the key fully depressed, and the action in otherwise decent 
regulation, the top of the back check should be no higher than the end of 
the hammer tail, or a couple of millimeters below. 
Ron N  


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