[CAUT] piano moving stuff

[Elwood Doss]

Thanks for including the info on the 52nd Annual Convention.  Hopefully
my wife and I can attend.

 

A lot of professional piano movers use the lyre to swing the grand piano
to the dolly.  I cringe every time I see it, but it evidently works for
them.  I like the piano horse and jack-in-the-box myself.

Joy!

Elwood

 

Elwood Doss, Jr., M.M.E., RPT

Piano Technician/Technical Director

Department of Music

145 Fine Arts Building

The University of Tennessee at Martin

Martin, TN  38238

731/881-1852

FAX: 731/881-7415

HOME: 731/587-5700

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:00 PM
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PW,

 

Many movers regularly turn grands on the lyre without problems. I don't
because we have the Horse and it seems safer to me. Gordon Crail, who
invented the Horse, is a friend and we have a prototype that has been
used for years in the shop and on the road. He suggests, blocking the
tail end of the dolly up, using a person to counter balance the key end,
and using a lift strap. Doing this saves a lot of strain, as about half
of the lift is done. I don't have pics of the skids but the GC is sort
of like what we have. We have fixed wheels in the center and swivel
wheels at each end. 

I enjoyed the Annual and it seemed to me that most everyone else did.
The facility was good and the Institute and Home Office staff had every
thing running smoothly. Next year it will be in Grand Rapids, MI at the
Amway Grand Hotel which looks like one of the best venues yet.

DP 

July 15, 2009--July 19, 2009

	52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION
	Amway Grand Hotel
	Grand Rapids, MI
	Contact: Sandy Roady
	4444 Forest Avenue, Kansas City, KS 66106
	Phone: 913-432-9975
	Fax: 913-432-9986

	 

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	I NEVER use the lyre for tilting.  Who does such a horrible
thing?  How would one combine the two?  I'm trying to visualize  getting
the lifting of the back end of the grand away for getting a dolly
under....  Sure would save some backs!!! 
	
	pw 
	
	ps Thanks.  I think I may get a Horse for myself here in the
shop..  It looks real good.  any pics of your shop built thing? 
	How was natonal? 
	
	pw 
	
	
	
	

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	Hi Paul, 
	  
	Use the Horse all the time and love it. The only problem may be
combining the two. It looks like the Grand Chariot
http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/
<http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/>  may be raised off the ground a
bit and the Horse is designed to take the piano to the ground. I use
something similar to the GC that is shop built and it requires more care
to use it in combination with the Horse. Looks like the GC is designed
for those who use the lyre for turning. 
	  
	DP 
	Dale Probst, RPT 
	Midwestern State University 
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	Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:28 PM
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	Hi all 
	
	I hope your time in Anaheim was good for all! 
	
	We have a professor here who is going to be "on the road" with
her Yamaha C-7 this fall.  she asked me about piano moving stuff and
mentioned the piano horse (janssen) and something called a "grand
chariot"  which looks more like a skidboard with wheels. 
	
	Have any of you used these things?  Are they worth the money?
(she has a grant to buy said items)  Anything better out there? 
	
	Thanks in advance 
	
	Paul 

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