[CAUT] Pianopedia -was: wrong direction, now - seeking archived discussions

[David Skolnik]

Fred -
Thanks for postponing the postmortem, though the discussion may have 
to segue into the ethics of life support for the creature.  Just to 
make sure our playful references don't become the source of 
unintended injury, I would distinguish Dr. Baden, who simply calls it 
like he sees it, and Dr. Dead (easily confused with Dr. Death) who is 
a facilitator, once he's called.  Chris just called it. Let's not 
rile Chris.  I'm not sure he'll take it kindly.

On the other hand, thanks much for answering my questions, or at 
least trying to.  You have given me worthwhile additional 
information, though, even from that, I suspect that Chris's bottom 
line probably remains intact.  It was likely the bedside manner that 
put me off.  As much as I'd rather not accept the bleak assessment 
regarding the lists' unalterable structure, I assume you know what 
you're talking about.

Which leaves all the other aspects of the conversation, and finding a 
warm, nurturing home for them to thrive.  There's no reason, per se, 
that it need be hosted at ptg.org, but, as facile as it sounds, I 
suppose Ron B or Andy Rudoff could create yet 'another list'.

As to the potential for list-behavior modification, for all sorts of 
related and unrelated reasons, I have to maintain the belief that 
such is possible.  If it is unachievable on such a relatively small 
scale, then we, the big we, have much bigger problems than cross 
posting or mismatched subject headers.  Let's not get you started.

Thanks again, and though incompetent, I'd do what I can.

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson


At 11:11 AM 7/20/2008, you wrote:

>On Jul 20, 2008, at 2:00 AM, David Skolnik wrote:
>
>>I looked at all your posts since May 20, 2006, with no success, and
>>I've looked at Alan McCoy's posts, wherein I do find a number that
>>are relevant, but none that refer to software or a determined
>>group.  So I'm asking for some help.  Perhaps someone else can point
>>me in the right direction.
>>
>>still a wee bit o'pulse
>
>
>Hi David,
>         The caut list conversation is what you found (Alan McCoy's 
> posts and
>various responses). I don't recall Herr Doktor Solliday making any
>substantive contributions at the time. Alan arranged for a meeting of
>interested persons at the 2007 KC convention, a meeting that was
>poorly publicized and squeezed between classes. A small group of
>people attended, possibly Herr S included (I disremember). I think
>Alan was looking at some software, and I believe he said he met with
>Ron Berry to talk about the possibility of using the Moodle suite that
>was being considered and beta tested for on line written exams. I
>wasn't party to that meeting, but maybe Dr Dead was (and found the
>software interface baffling).
>         At any rate, I agree with you that there is still a "wee bit o'
>pulse." Depending on whether and when actual breathing thinking people
>choose to "step up" and take action. Calling the idea dead is quite
>premature. Calling continued discussion of it annoying to several
>subscribers to the caut list would be a more accurate assessment. So
>it should probably move off list, but that would require people
>interested in pursuing it to identify themselves. I am willing to
>serve as a facilitator of such a project, and to put my own shoulder
>to the wheel to get things done. So if there are individuals
>interested in contributing effort (not just advice), feel free to
>contact me off list.
>         Your question about retroactively attaching changes to subject
>headings I think I can answer. I am told the archives are essentially
>unchangeable - can be done, but only at cost of tremendous toil.
>         And, judging from experience with recent attempts to change subject
>lines when content shifts, the likelihood of training the average caut
>poster to pay attention to such niceties as having the subject pertain
>to the content seems a remote one. One can advocate, and some will pay
>attention, some of the time, but that's about it.
>
>Regards,
>Fred Sturm
>University of New Mexico
>fssturm at unm.edu
>
>
>
>
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