[CAUT] Mason & Hamlin agraffes

Alan McCoy amccoy at mail.ewu.edu
Tue Jan 8 14:23:46 MST 2008


Fred,

The difference is the same as the difference between the profile of a flat
head wood screw with its 60 degree angled head going into the straight shank
on the one hand, and a bugle-headed screw like sheetrock or decking screws
where there is a smooth curve from the top of the head to the shank.

Alan


> From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:18:07 -0700
> To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org>
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Mason & Hamlin agraffes
> 
> Hi Alan,
> What does "radiused" mean in this context? I know what the PIanotek
> one is like (have one), and would appreciate a more descriptive
> account of the difference. Judging from the picture, it maybe has to
> do with multiple cutting flutes?
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
> fssturm at unm.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Alan McCoy wrote:
> 
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> The reamer you have is probably from Pianotek and if so, it is not
>> radiused.
>> Than one actually has a countersunk-type profile. The one from MSC
>> is truly
>> radiused. If you are really into polishing after reaming, a faster
>> way to go
>> (than Revenko-Jones) is with a dremel and a polishing bit you can
>> get from
>> Wigets.com. It is a teardrop shape and a pink color and feels sort
>> of like
>> an eraser. Sorry I don't have the link here at school.
>> 
>> The reaming can definitely be done in the home. Hold the drill in
>> your hand,
>> and also hold the agraffe in your hand and go slowly. By doing it in
>> your
>> hands there is give and you are much less likely to chew up the
>> agraffe. The
>> whole set can be done this way very effectively - reaming and
>> polishing - in
>> maybe an hour.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Mark Cramer <cramer at brandonu.ca>
>>> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org
>>>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:22:39 -0600
>>> To: 'College and University Technicians' <caut at ptg.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Mason & Hamlin agraffes
>>> 
>>> Actually no Don, I don't recommend the drill press. The bit can
>>> grab and
>>> make a mess (take my word, or do I need to send photo? ;>)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bit will self-center in the hole, and I will suggest once more
>>> that the
>>> variable speed drill with slip clutch is the ticket. You want to
>>> hold the
>>> drill with a loose grip and light pressure, so that if the bit
>>> should catch,
>>> the impact is wasted, rather than transferred to the agraffe.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i.e.: the bit needs to be able to "chatter" if necessary, to
>>> prevent a
>>> sudden calamity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So yes, you do need to remove the agraffe and be able to hold it
>>> flat to
>>> your work-surface. (my simple holding fixture works great, sorry the
>>> description may be a bit vague)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In any case, I agree this is not a comfortable repair to do on-site.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> Mark Cramer,
>>> 
>>> Brandon University
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  _____
>>> 
>>> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Donald
>>> McKechnie
>>> Sent: January 7, 2008 11:41 AM
>>> To: caut at ptg.org
>>> Subject: [CAUT] Mason & Hamlin agraffes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark, David, Ron & Ric,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your replies to my questions. I just spoke to my
>>> customer and she
>>> has agreed to try replacing the strings on the note. If I can get the
>>> agraffe out without any fuss I will try polishing the holes as
>>> shown by Paul
>>> in the March 05 Journal. Trying to use the reamer during in home
>>> service
>>> could get a bit dicey. It needs to be perfectly still, preferably
>>> at a drill
>>> press to ream correctly. Paul's point about the reamers leaving
>>> striations
>>> is a good one. The buffing method is more work but perhaps better
>>> for in
>>> home service. We'll give it a try and hopefully this will work for
>>> now. She
>>> has not complained of other notes having this buzz but I would bet
>>> that will
>>> come up at another time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don McKechnie
>>> 
>>> Piano Technician
>>> 
>>> Ithaca College
>>> 
>>> dmckech at ithaca.edu
>>> 
>>> 607-274-3908
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 




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