You guys are on to me. Yeah, I've been bowling for way too long. That and not switching arms while carrying my 50# bag o' tools. Alan > From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca> > Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:21:00 -0300 > To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets > > That wouldn't be a finger would it? :-) > John M. Ross > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada. > jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan McCoy" <amccoy at mail.ewu.edu> > To: <caut at ptg.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets > > >> Hey Fred and David, >> >> This digital sensing device to prevent overfilling exists already. >> I've been >> using one for years and it is foolproof, infinitely adjustable >> on-the-fly >> and cheap. It's in everybody's tool kit. >> >> Alan >> >> >>> From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> >>> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" >>> <caut at ptg.org> >>> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:47:17 -0600 >>> To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" >>> <caut at ptg.org> >>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> I can hear the end of the trickling sound okay, but I like to "push >>> the envelope" and add another half a liter or so beyond, to take care >>> of the last day of those two weeks between fillings during dry >>> periods. Me, I have no help and have to fill the darned things >>> myself. Once every two weeks I can handle. >>> It's a matter of learning how much water to add beyond the point >>> where the sound diminishes to nothing, and the precise timing of the >>> end of the trickle noise. Of course, this depends on the end of the >>> tube (its setting in relationship to the top/bottom of the tank) >>> being consistent from piano to piano. I overfilled precisely two >>> times (we have hard water, so it left plenty of evidence in the form >>> of minerals). Fine enough for me, but if you are training student >>> help, you'll want something more concrete. >>> There are plenty of possibilities, including installing one of those >>> beepers at just the right level (probes set at just below the target >>> water level), with a switch in its cord. Turn the switch on so it is >>> beeping when you start to fill, then stop adding water when it stops >>> beeping. And remember to switch it off now, to avoid annoying the >>> sensitive ears of the piano prof between services <G>. >>> Regards, >>> Fred Sturm >>> University of New Mexico >>> fssturm at unm.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Mark Cramer wrote: >>> >>>> Question: Since you listen to the (faint) trickling sound when >>>> filling >>>> tanks, how hard should it be to make the filling process "noisier" >>>> i.e.: add >>>> somthing that rattles around at the end of the tube... ? >>>> >>>> or for that matter, why not a simple float that rises with the >>>> "tide" until >>>> it blocks the end of the filler tube? >>>> >>>> We really should be able to solve this thing. >>>> >>>> best regards, >>>> Mark Cramer, >>>> Brandon University >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org]On Behalf Of >>>> Fred Sturm >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:36 AM >>>> To: College and University Technicians >>>> Subject: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Here are some pictures, as promised earlier, of my method of >>>> attaching an undercover, using hooks and grommets. It's the first >>>> such installation I ever did, and is an "under the beams" >>>> installation (before the new tanks which fit between beams), and >>>> with >>>> 48" (50w) rod (extends beyond the fabric - a neater job can be had >>>> with 38w, less wrinkling of fabric). Took me less than an hour to >>>> install, and really doesn't look too bad. I am better at it now, and >>>> can make a neater job of it for a fancy living room. This is in a >>>> faculty studio, and not at all in view. I was experimenting, and the >>>> grommets were added after a trial with tape, staples, and a hole. I >>>> find now that, with grommet squeezing pliers, I can just use the >>>> grommet to hold the fabric (create the "hem" and attach to the >>>> hook), >>>> and don't need the reinforcement of tape. The grommets in the >>>> picture >>>> were applied using a hammer, with punch and shaped anvil. The >>>> results >>>> were not very consistent, and it was much more time-consuming than >>>> pliers. $15 for the pliers was well worth the expense. >>>> Besides ease of installation. what I like about this system is ease >>>> of removal and replacement. Literally seconds to get it out of the >>>> way to service the tank and pads, and seconds to replace it. The >>>> observant among you might notice the tell-tale signs of over-filling >>>> the tank. I listen to the fill noise more carefully now. I manage to >>>> get two weeks between filling by maxing almost to the top of the >>>> tank. >>>> If anyone has questions, I'll do my best to answer, or perhaps take >>>> some different pictures. This was a hard set up for photography, as >>>> it is rather cramped (two B's next to each other), but it's the only >>>> undercover I have ready access to. The others I have installed are >>>> in >>>> private clients' homes. >>>> Regards, >>>> Fred Sturm >>>> University of New Mexico >>>> fssturm at unm.edu >>>> >>> >> >> >
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