[CAUT] puzzler

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Cheesh, I was just about to say loose cloth <G>
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
To: <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: [CAUT] puzzler


> Whenever someone else does the puzzler, I say the same thing....when we
diagnose something it's never instantaneous but trial and error....search,
moving things etc. something you can't do with the puzzler...but, that being
said, I think you've got it.    I removed the pedals brought down the
sustain pedal lever (held up by a thin leather piece, attached to the tray
with a screw) and found the pitman/pushrod's (haven't heard that one before)
cloth on each end was off center and flapping with loose glue underneath.
I suspect the cloth was glued on and immediately put in the piano still wet.
A few pedal movements mis-aligned the cloth....I removed them and cleaned
off dried glue, applied glue and let dry while I worked on their other
grand.
>
> Sorry, no prize.   Spent too much this Christmas...;-]
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, California
>
>
>
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> From: "Ric Brekne" <ricbrek@broadpark.no>
> To: caut <caut@ptg.org>
> Received: 1/4/2006 7:58:54 AM
> Subject: [CAUT] puzzler
>
>
> >Grin..
>
> >These things are always easy when you already know the answer.  I still
> >dont know if its at the beginning of the pedal release or at the end.
> >But as I understand it the action guises the sound if in the piano and
> >when out the sound changes from a click to a paperish sound and you can
> >identify the direction its coming from.  Loose damper tray centers on
> >Yamahas cause something not disimilar to your description... but then
> >thats also accompanied with dampers lifting uneven when one of them
> >works their way out.
>
> >Not knowing the exact configuration of  the pedal levers for the
> >Bosendorfer in question I'd have to guess... but it sounds like you
> >might have something wrong with the way the pushrod (pitman I think you
> >call it over there ? ) engages the damper tray.... or something of that
> >sort.  You did say no foreign materials present... so its either the
> >tray mounts / centers themselves or something about the pushrod /tray.
>
> >OR ?!!... I'm out in left field as usual :)
>
> >Cheers
> >RicB
>
> >----------
> >The action has no bearing on it but when out of the way I can hear where
> >the problem is coming from....
>
> >David Ilvedson, RPT
> >Pacifica, California
>
>
> > >Hi Dave
>
> > >One question.  Is the noise evident at the start of damper pedal
release
> > >or at the end (rest position) ? Trying to figure why the action being
in
> > >or out should have any effect at all.... Damper levers dont come in
> > >contact with the keytails.... nothing else about the action is supposed
> > >to engage the damper system at all unless you have the sustenato lever
> > >built into the action.  Hmmmm :)
>
>
> > >Cheers
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