[CAUT] Pricing of upright versus grand hammer installation

[michelle stranges]

Just saw a STACK of them at the MARC convention.

PTG has Newton's guides.

:)
her

--On Monday, April 11, 2005 9:52 AM -0500 "Ray T. Bentley" 
<ray@bentley.net> wrote:

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> Speaking of Newton Hunt's guide...
>
> I think I may have had a copy of that at one time.  I'm wondering if it
> is available in print, or if it might even be permissible to have it
> posted on CAUT.  It may come in handy for those who may be doing a
> procedure for the first time.
>
> Ray
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> Registered Piano Tuner-Technician
> Alton, IL
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of
> Mary Smith Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:20 AM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Pricing of upright versus grand hammer installation
>
> Hi,
>
> Yea, I think Wim's on the right track here. Newton Hunt's "Guide" lists
> jobs by the number of hours it takes to perform each (approximately). My
> standard pricing procedure is to take my cost for the parts and multiply
> that by 40% to the customer. I then calculate the number of hours it
> takes me to do a certain job (I used to use "The Guide" a lot before I
> had done many of the listed jobs). Multiply that by my hourly rate, add
> it together with the cost for parts, and send in the bid. Ain't math
> wonderful? Oh, I also often "pad" the estimate by 10% or so to provide
> for unforeseen problems. After all, an estimate is an ESTIMATE, not the
> bottom line.
>
> Mary
>
> At 07:35 AM 4/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:40:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> jlolson@cal.net writes:
>
> No need to name specific prices -- which would doubtless violate some
> obscure anti-trust law -- I'm just interested in what people here think
> the  "basic" price differential should be between installing grand and
> upright  hammers, based on the respective labor typically necessary for
> the two  (apart from the obvious purchase differential).
>
>  After all these years, the question struck me with sudden force when I
> happened to undertake simultaneously three hammer hanging projects of
> each -- hammering home, so to speak, the relative difference in effort
> required.
>
>  Best,
>
>  JeffO
>
> Jeff
>
> You know the price difference between the parts, so what you want to know
> is the price differential as far as how much time it takes to do each
> job. In that case, you can probably answer your own question. If you are
> only replacing hammers, does it take longer to remove upright hammers
> than grand hammers? Is there time difference in traveling, spacing, and
> burning upright hammers and grand hammers? Are you including regulating
> the action too, and is there a difference between the two.
>
> Wim
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