[CAUT] Pricing of upright versus grand hammer installation

[Ray T. Bentley]

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Speaking of Newton Hunt's guide...
 
I think I may have had a copy of that at one time.  I'm wondering if it
is available in print, or if it might even be permissible to have it
posted on CAUT.  It may come in handy for those who may be doing a
procedure for the first time.
 
Ray
 
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From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Smith
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:20 AM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Pricing of upright versus grand hammer installation


Hi,

Yea, I think Wim's on the right track here. Newton Hunt's "Guide" lists
jobs by the number of hours it takes to perform each (approximately). My
standard pricing procedure is to take my cost for the parts and multiply
that by 40% to the customer. I then calculate the number of hours it
takes me to do a certain job (I used to use "The Guide" a lot before I
had done many of the listed jobs). Multiply that by my hourly rate, add
it together with the cost for parts, and send in the bid. Ain't math
wonderful? Oh, I also often "pad" the estimate by 10% or so to provide
for unforeseen problems. After all, an estimate is an ESTIMATE, not the
bottom line.

Mary

At 07:35 AM 4/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:


In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:40:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jlolson@cal.net writes:


No need to name specific prices -- which would doubtless violate some 


obscure anti-trust law -- I'm just interested in what people here think
the 


"basic" price differential should be between installing grand and
upright 


hammers, based on the respective labor typically necessary for the two 


(apart from the obvious purchase differential).



After all these years, the question struck me with sudden force when I 


happened to undertake simultaneously three hammer hanging projects of 


each -- hammering home, so to speak, the relative difference in effort 


required.



Best,



JeffO



Jeff
 
You know the price difference between the parts, so what you want to
know is the price differential as far as how much time it takes to do
each job. In that case, you can probably answer your own question. If
you are only replacing hammers, does it take longer to remove upright
hammers than grand hammers? Is there time difference in traveling,
spacing, and burning upright hammers and grand hammers? Are you
including regulating the action too, and is there a difference between
the two. 
 
Wim  
 



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