---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Using a #28 (or abouts) insulin syringe with medium viscosity CA helps control the messiness. Applying accelerator first with a syringe can help in some situations. Need to wait a few minutes before applying the CA if you use the accelerator. Make sure you use a sharps container to dispose of the syringes. They are very dangerous, especially if disposed of incorrectly. I haven't done this on high level grands, but it works wonders on old Kawai grands. I started with verticals. Tim Coates University of South Dakota University of Sioux Falls Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel) wrote: >Thanks Fred....I think I'll go practice in a practice room tomorrow. > >Eric > >-----Original Message----- >From: fssturm@unm.edu [mailto:fssturm@unm.edu] >Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:51 PM >To: College and University Technicians >Subject: RE: humidity control in concert pianos > > >Hi Eric, > I've done a wee bit of CA-ing on finer grands, including a couple D's. I >really >don't think there is anything to worry about overmuch beyond the aesthetics. > >IOW, if a bit of CA manages to get in what your imagination will tell you is >a bad >place, it won't have a noticeable effect (this from experience with less >fine >instruments, where I have CA'd entire sections - capo - without worrying >overly >much about where the flow managed to get to, and noticed no ill effects >whatsoever. Worrysome places being between string and bridge, and in the >pin/ >notch/string interface). > That said, on the finer instrument, I am very careful to control the CA >as much >as possible. I like to use a very fine end (as in ZAP ends), and apply to >the >bridge side of the pin right behind the string, watching it wick. Just >enough to >wick into the crack between pin and bridge. As Roger suggested a while back, >a >bit of paper towel or similar, placed between string and notch, will absorb >what >might flow over. > Controlling extra thin CA is a trick, and best practiced in the practice >room a >few times first. I have had reasonably consistent good results. IOW, CA has >always reduced false beating, and usually come close enough to eliminating >it. >Well worth the effort (very minor expenditure of time). Seems to be >reasonably >long-lasting. I haven't been doing it long enough to vouch for long term in >multiple years - I guess two years is about the limit of my experience, best >I >remember. >Regards, >Fred Sturm >University of New Mexico >Quoting "Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel)" <WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU>: > > > >>Has anyone ever done any investigations involving the tonal impact >>these >>units might have on a stage piano? It seems to me that you would have >>to >>lose a certain amount of power since sound is coming off the bottom >>of the >>soundboard as well as the top. I know these units have great value in >>studio >>and home situations, but I just can't imagine it not affecting the >>piano's >>tone and power. And by the way, just as a reminder about how this >>thread >>began, I haven't heard from anyone about gluing bridge pins on a >>concert >>instrument...it seems like a great idea to be able to stabilize the >>wood >>around these pins. I guess I'll just have to go up into a practice >>room and >>find out for myself... >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Eric Wolfley >>Head Piano Technician >>Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music >>University of Cincinnati >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca] >>Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:25 AM >>To: College and University Technicians >>Subject: humidity control in concert pianos >> >> >>Hi Jeff, >> >>I've changed the thread. >> >>That's very simple to arrange. Take a rechargeable emergency >>flashlight, >>replace the bulb with a buzzer and splice it into the power cord of >>the DC >>unit. When the unit is unplugged it will buzz for about 20 minutes. >>Trust >>me--they will plug it in! I'd really appreciate the DC people >>including >>this as an optional "add on". >> >>A refinement to this would be to use one of the many uninteruptible >>power >>supplies that are used on computers--I do think this is overkill--but >>I'd >>do it in a flash if I could purchase a unit where the "beep" could >>be >>turned off for concerts--there would then be no cords needed during >>a >>performance. >> >>The local University concert venue's here have DC units on the two >>pianos >>used for that purpose. >> >> >>At 10:55 AM 10/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >>>If he's like us, there is no way to expect to keep one plugged in on >>> >>> >>a >> >> >>>concert instrument. >>>Jeff >>> >>>On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 08:35 AM, Don wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Eric, >>>> >>>>Why no hope of a DC system with bottom cover? >>>> >>>>At 10:12 AM 10/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> to dry out it reverts a devilish false beat capo noise monster. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Unfortunately, most of the concerts are during the dry months and >>>> >>>> >>>>there is >>>>no hope of any climate control. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Eric Wolfley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >>>> >>>>mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca >>>>http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >>>> >>>>3004 Grant Rd. >>>>REGINA, SK >>>>S4S 5G7 >>>>306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Regards, >>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >> >>mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca >>http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >> >>3004 Grant Rd. >>REGINA, SK >>S4S 5G7 >>306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >>_______________________________________________ >>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>_______________________________________________ >>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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