standards

[Richard Moody]

Greetings Richard West,
     I have a feeling half of you questions can't be answered
unless we are standing beside the particular concert grand, and
listening to it in the hall not only during tuning but also
performance.
     You ask about the 4 :2 ratio "or wider".  This is only a
concern with machines.   Because of the myriad of aural tests, the
4:2 or the 6:3 or the 2:1 are all considered when doing an aural
tuning.
    So I am wondering if you are doubting your training, your
experience, or are trying to decide to spend up to $2,000 on the
ultimate tuning machine.

---rm


> --On Monday, May 5, 2003 8:42 AM -0500 Richard West
<rwest1@unl.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hello, All,
> >
> > I'm curious about what the "standard" for concert tuning might
be.  How
> > do you tune a concert grand in equal temperament (9' Steinway,
for
> > example)?  What are your standards?  I know pianos vary, but
what are you
> > personally trying to achieve when you tune concert grands?
I'm trying to
> > get a handle on what's really being done out there in the real
world,
> > apart from PTG's tuning exam.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1.  When you set the temperament, how wide is your temperament
octave,
> > 4:2, or wider?  If you choose wider, are you comfortable with
the
> > compromised (i.e. faster beating) 4ths, even if you get nicer,
cleaner
> > fifths?   2.  How wide are your midrange octaves?  4:2 or
wider?
> > 3.  When checking octaves and double octaves, do you strive
for equal
> > beating 3rds, 10ths, 17ths, or do the 10ths beat faster than
the 3rds,
> > and the 17ths faster still?
> >
> > 4.  In the top octave do you tune clean 2:1 octaves, clean 4:1
double
> > octaves, or do you stretch more than clean double octaves?  If
you
> > stretch more than clean double octaves, how do you know how
much more
> > stretch you're introducing? Are you comfortable with the fast
beating
> > single octaves?  What test(s) do you use when stretching
beyond the clean
> > double octave, especially in the last 1/2 of the top octave?
> >
> > 5.  In the octave between C1 and C2, what should the beat
rates for 17ths
> > be?
> >
> > Thanks for your input on this.
> >
> > Richard West, University of Nebraska
> >
> >
> >
> >
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