String breakage (& yamaha butts)

Ed Sutton ed440@mindspring.com
Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:03:04 -0500


Isaac-
Yes, this works well for those with the little center pin plates.
But many Yamahas have the standard bird's eye butts, at least in the US.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Isaac OLEG" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: String breakage (& yamaha butts)


> Hello,
>
> I like the wire tip, but it is not always necessary to repin .
>
> It is also possible to dismount the hammer rest rail, unscrew the
> plate flange, and have all the hammers falling just hold by the butt.
> Then you have access to the flanges to change the cords. a little wood
> block with a nail is used to have the thread the good lenght, while
> cutting them before gluing is yet necessary.
>
> hope it helps
>
>
> Isaac OLEG.
>
>
>
> Isaac OLEG
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> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De
> > la part de Ed
> > Sutton
> > Envoyé : jeudi 27 février 2003 16:17
> > À : College and University Technicians
> > Objet : Re: String breakage (& yamaha butts)
> >
> >
> > One way to replace flange cords (full set)
> > Remove and number parts.
> > Set up your center pin pusher.
> > Hook a piece of wire to one side of your bench.
> > As you remove the flanges, string them on the wire through
> > the bushings in
> > order 1-88. Thin soft wire is best.
> > Hook the other end of the wire to the other side of your bench.
> > Now, as you go through the steps of removing and replacing
> > the cords, slide
> > the flanges along the wire.  You can move quickly and keep
> > 88 flanges in
> > order.  Use medium CA glue. Spit on the cord to kick the
> > glue. Two brads in
> > the bench will control the length of the cord, one in the
> > screw hole, one to
> > loop the cord around.
> > (While the hammers are out of their flanges, this is a good
> > time to clamp
> > them into bunches and gang file them.)
> > When you reassemble the hammers & flanges, go up one pin
> > size and use a
> > Mannino broach to resize the bushings.
> > The advantage is that the hammer alignment and travel will
> > be close to
> > perfect if you reassemble with the original parts.
> > ES
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Tanner" <jtanner@mozart.sc.edu>
> > To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: String breakage (& yamaha butts)
> >
> >
> > > >By the way, does anybody have a dandy way to put new
> > cord on Yamaha butt
> > > >flanges?  I've got some U-1s starting to break cords, so
> > got some sets of
> > > >flanges & cord, figuring on replacing a set or two, &
> > then putting the
> > new
> > > >cord on the flanges, replacing some more, etc.  Unless I
> > find a better
> > way
> > > >to put the stuff on, I'm better off buying the sets of
> > flanges, even
> > though
> > > >they've about doubled in price.  Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >Otto
> > >
> > > I'd like to know, why is it that this design is so much
> > of an improvement
> > > over the spring rail design that it is worth making it
> > more difficult to
> > > remove and replace hammer butts, except to sell parts
> > when the cord
> > breaks?
> > >
> > > (Hey, are these covered under warranty?)
> > >
> > > Even Steinway is using these now, and with the jack stop
> > rail, rather than
> > > the felt on the catcher, accessing the butt flange screws
> > becomes an even
> > > more difficult challenge.  Somewhat like the Baldwin
> > damper upstop rail
> > > screws being located directly behind the sostenuto
> > brackets and you've got
> > > to get in there with a phillips.
> > >
> > > Got no tricks.  The time or two I've replaced these cords
> > I had to wait
> > > quite a while while they dried.  Only had white glue in
> > my case.  By the
> > > way, I assume you know that you can get this cord from
> > your local fish and
> > > tackle shop.
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
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