String breakage (& yamaha butts)

[John Ross]

Hi Otto,
The archives has some good info on this.
Basically, Get a piece of dowelling, of a size, that the diameter,
gives you the required length. Make 88 wraps, and run a razor blade
down the length, of the dowell. Voila, 88 pieces the proper length.
The get a piece of wood, with a pin the size of the screw hole, then
put a nail in the wood so you have the loop the same as your sample.
Scrape out the old cord and glue, and insert the new, in it's place.
Buy the first set, then make the old set into a spare set for the next
piano, with the problem.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
John M. Ross
hatWindsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Otto Keyes" <okeyes@uidaho.edu>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: String breakage (& yamaha butts)


> Just before Christmas I got a call from a lady who wanted her piano
tuned up
> before the kids got home for the holidays.  She said she thought it
had a
> broken string or two.  She didn't play it herself, but had a son
coming home
> who was quite good.  I pressed her a bit, & she thought there might
be more
> than two, with broken strings in the piano bench, so I said I would
check it
> out.  It was a Conn, or console of similar ilk, with the sharp kink
over the
> V-bar.  Indeed, there were a couple of broken bass strings in the
> bench.....and 9-10 more laying in bottom of the piano.  At least
> half-a-dozen bass strings had already been tied, & there were
another half
> dozen, or more, plain wires missing in the treble.  Looked like the
> soundboard had attempted a breakout.
>
> These days I figure there's only so much fun an old man can stand,
so I
> gently informed the customer that the money they would pay me would
best be
> applied to a new piano, and took my leave with a large sigh of
relief.
>
> By the way, does anybody have a dandy way to put new cord on Yamaha
butt
> flanges?  I've got some U-1s starting to break cords, so got some
sets of
> flanges & cord, figuring on replacing a set or two, & then putting
the new
> cord on the flanges, replacing some more, etc.  Unless I find a
better way
> to put the stuff on, I'm better off buying the sets of flanges, even
though
> they've about doubled in price.  Any ideas?
>
> Otto
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lance Lafargue" <lancelafargue@bellsouth.net>
> To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:57 AM
> Subject: RE: String breakage
>
>
> > This P-202 was within the last 5 years.  It may be called a P-22
now
> (45").
> > They were really banging on it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf
Of
> > Susan Kline
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:33 PM
> > To: College and University Technicians
> > Subject: RE: String breakage
> >
> >
> > Yes, those early P202's did have troubles in the bass. Remember,
it
> > was just after they took over the Everett factory. After breaking
> > two bass strings while tuning three very lightly used P202's at a
> > school, I looked, and saw that the string approached the coil at a
> > bad angle, so that it was trying to ride up where the coil first
> > started, especially for the lowest row of pins.
> >
> > This was before they sent out rescaled strings, but they certainly
> > got my attention by sending me a complete set of bass strings,
gratis.
> > Superb
> > service -- if only the design had been as good as the service
reps!
> >
> > It all seemed so needless -- if they could just have drilled the
> > tuning pin holes so the pins leaned back at an angle, I doubt that
> > they would have broken any wire to speak of.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > At 11:07 AM 2/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Lance wrote:
> > > >Susan, my biggest string breaker was Macedonia Baptist Church
with a
> > Yamaha
> > > >P-202 also.  Yamaha/dealer paid me to replace the bass strings
with
> > rescaled
> > > >strings with heavier core wire.  They haven't broken any since.
> > >
> > >Susan, Lance,
> > >My biggest string breaker was also a Yamaha P202.  Similar
Baptist Church
> > >setting.
> > >
> > >Yamaha told me to use the different scale bass strings as well,
and sent
> > >them to me.  Apparently, they keep records of frequency of string
> breakage
> > >for each string for each model.  The service rep could tell me
which bass
> > >strings had the highest occurrence of breakage.
> > >Jeff
> > >
> > >
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