Temp Strips

David Ilvedson ilvey@jps.net
Sat Jul 28 09:33 MDT 2001


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I don't use a temp strip either...haven't for years...

David I.

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On 7/28/01 at 8:42 AM Joe & Penny Goss wrote:

Hi David,
My process is similar to yours. But I use two mutes and no temp strip.  On
uprights one large fat one for the bass and a split rubber with spring
steel handel for the tenor on up. To get into the area at the top of the
dampers, the split muteis placed on a belt sander to make a smaller tip on
the split mute.
On grands its the large single mute for all except the high treble. I know
that this may be a little slower than strip muting the entire piano, but
getting the two outside wires to agree with each other 
lets me get better unisons that stay where they are put. 
"Any two strings slightly out of tune will sound out of tune, but three
strings slightly out of tune will sound as one" Kimball Stout's theory of
three.
However my last check is to listen to the unison as a whole with all three
strings sounding.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Ilvedson 
To: caut@ptg.org 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Temp Strips


I use two mutes and do tune the middle string first except at struts.
Right string mute moves up to next unison's right string.  Tune right
string to middle.  Left string mute moves up to next unison's left string.
Tune left string to middle.  When in the treble on uprights with space
problems with the dampers I do use one mute with left string first.

David I.

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On 7/27/01 at 10:32 PM David Graham wrote:
Hi all- my variation on this was to snip the loop off a regular mute
handle.. On one end is a 3/4 in mute, on the other is a 1/2 in mute, so I
use it for both grands and uprights. It has the advantage of being long
enough that it won't fall down through the upright action (usually).
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David Graham <dcgrpt@earthlink.net>


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From: "Mike McCoy" <mjmccoyrpt@earthlink.net>
To: <ctuner@reyburn.com>
Subject: Fw: Temp Strips
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001, 7:49 PM





Hi Bruce, Alan and other non-strippers!

    If you are using mutes only going from bottom to top or top to bottom
do
I assume you are not tuning the center string of a 3-string unison first?
IE: you put a mute between the mid and 2nd string to mute them both then
tune the left string, then complete the unison and move on?

Thanks!
Mike


Mike McCoy RPT
So Central Pa Chapter 170 & SEPA 190 PTG
Langhorne, Pa
Mailto:mjmccoyrpt@earthlink.net <mailto:mjmccoyrpt@earthlink.net> 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan McCoy" <amccoy@icehouse.net <mailto:amccoy@icehouse.net> >
To: "Cybertuner" <ctuner@reyburn.com <mailto:ctuner@reyburn.com> >
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 2:16 AM
Subject: RE: Temp. strips.


> Bruce,
>
> I chucked my strip a while ago and like it too. Except that on verticals
I
> still strip out the tenor. I find it easier to strip it out than to use a
> mute, even though I still tune unisons as I go. There is something about
> fiddling with a mute on a vertical in that section (with strings unevenly
> spaced, older eyes and the ever-present klutz factor - mutes falling into
> inaccessible places in the action and other mishaps  :-) ) A grand on the
> other hand is easy for even me to use a single mute throughout the scale.
>
> Alan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Genck [mailto:brgenck@honeycomb.net
<mailto:brgenck@honeycomb.net> ]
> > Sent: July 25, 2001 6:24 PM
> > To: ctuner@reyburn.com <mailto:ctuner@reyburn.com> 
> > Subject: Temp. strips.
> >
> >
> > Carl & Mitch,
> >
> > I talked with you both at the convention about the use of temp. strips
> > when tuning.  You advised me to
> > throw them away and tune with a mute doing unisons as I go from the
> > bottom all the way up.  Well, I've tried it again and like it alot.  My
> > tunings are more stable, and it's taking me less time!
> >
> > I thought you might like to know that someone does actually listen to
> > you :-)  I've now tried hundreds of pianos both ways and the difference
> > is huge.
> >
> > Thanks for giving me a push.
> >
> > Bruce Genck
> >
>
Mike McCoy RPT
So Central Pa Chapter 170 & SEPA 190 PTG
Langhorne, Pa
Mailto:mjmccoyrpt@earthlink.net <mailto:mjmccoyrpt@earthlink.net> 


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