[pianotech] OT: Re: Possible antivirus software misconceptions

Duaine Hechler dahechler at att.net
Wed Jan 9 18:10:38 MST 2013


Yes, correct.

Duaine

On 01/09/2013 06:36 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:
> Duaine. I understand that concept. But a virus is an outside "part" that effects both systems, kind of like humidity causes both to go out of tune. So are you saying Linux is not effected by "humidity" changes, or outside viruses?
>
> Wim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Well.....lets put it this way.............
>>
>> Since you know the difference between "uprights" and "grands".......
>>
>> Say Windows is equal to grands and say Linux / UNIX / Mac is equal to uprights.
>>
>> And lets assume that there are absolutely NO parts can cross into each other - that's how it is between Windows vs. Linux / UNIX / Mac.
>>
>> So Windows viruses / worms / etc will not work (fit onto) on Linux / UNIX / Mac.
>>
>> Is this any clearer ?
>>
>> Duaine
>>
>> On 01/09/2013 12:20 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:
>>> Duaine
>>> You say it's fairly simple. But I have no idea what you're saying. You might think it's simple, but you're explaining how to listen to beats between notes to someone who is deaf. But thanks for trying.
>>> Wim
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
>>> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2013 9:10 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Possible antivirus software misconceptions
>>>
>>> After thought...........
>>>
>>> Way back in 2003, I found out that Microsoft is hiding behind Linux boxes to
>>> protect their own butts from getting
>>> viruses / worms / etc.
>>>
>>> On 01/08/2013 12:31 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:
>>>> It's fairly simple.........
>>>>
>>>> Other OS'es like Linux and Mac (since it is a derivative of UNIX / Linux) have
>>> no idea what to do with "Windows" virus
>>>> / worms, etc.
>>>>
>>>> To get a little deeper in to it..........
>>>>
>>>> "___.bat"     "____.exe"     "___.dll" are "executables" and Linux / UNIX do
>>> NOT know how to operate on these types of
>>>> executables,
>>>>
>>>> The Linux / UNIX "___.so" is more or less equivalent of the "___.dll" in
>>> Windows.
>>>> And, any of the MS Office macros are ignored by Linux's OpenOffice /
>>> LibreOffice.
>>>> As I've stated many times before, I'm going on 13+ years with NO antivirus
>>> software - and - NO viruses / worms / etc.
>>>> Oh, and yes, there are antivirus software packages for Linux / UNIX, which
>>> referencing above, I have never used one
>>>> (even though, I'm connected to the internet 24/7 and download stuff all the
>>> time).
>>>> Duaine
>>>>
>>>> P.S. There is a program called VirtualBox (virtualbox.org) that I run within
>>> Linux to run a virtual "real" copy of
>>>> Windows XP - for all my "windows" needs.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/08/2013 11:36 AM,tnrwim at aol.com  <mailto:tnrwim at aol.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Duaine
>>>>> you said.
>>>>> "SO bottom line, antivirus software is as good as the ONLY known viruses
>>>>> - thus being forever in "responsive" or "reactive" mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, the ONLY way to get out of this "reactionary" or "catch 22"
>>>>> mode is to get off Windows."
>>>>> If the anti virus software only catches known viruses on Windows, wouldn't
>>> anti virus software only catch known
>>>>> viruses on any other operating system?  What's the difference?
>>>>> Wim
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net  <mailto:dahechler at att.net>>
>>>>> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org  <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>>
>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2013 6:16 am
>>>>> Subject: [pianotech] Possible antivirus software misconceptions
>>>>>
>>>>> When my brother-in-law was still on Windows using AVG antivirus
>>>>> software, he kept complaining about STILL getting viruses, worms, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you didn't know, antivirus software is a "reactionary"
>>>>> software package.
>>>>>
>>>>> They ONLY handle KNOWN viruses, worms, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meaning that if someone writes a NEW virus and it infects your
>>>>> computers, you can't blame it on the antivirus software (because they
>>>>> don't know about it yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> That virus that just hit you (and others) has to be reported and/or
>>>>> discovered by the antivirus software companies. THEN they have to write
>>>>> a "trap" for that virus, THEN roll it out to you as an update.
>>>>>
>>>>> SO bottom line, antivirus software is as good as the ONLY known viruses
>>>>> - thus being forever in "responsive" or "reactive" mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, the ONLY way to get out of this "reactionary" or "catch 22"
>>>>> mode is to get off Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Duaine Hechler
>>>>> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
>>>>> Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
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>>>>> Florissant, MO 63034
>>>>> (314) 838-5587
>>>>> dahechler at att.net  <mailto:dahechler at att.net>   <mailto:dahechler at att.net  <mailto:dahechler at att.net?>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Duaine Hechler
>>> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
>>> (314) 838-5587 /dahechler at att.net  <mailto:dahechler at att.net>  /www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com  <http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com>
>>> Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years
>>
>> -- 
>> Duaine Hechler
>> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
>> (314) 838-5587 / dahechler at att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
>> Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years
>>


-- 
Duaine Hechler
Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
(314) 838-5587 / dahechler at att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years



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