[pianotech] Re. Baldwin hammers

[tnrwim at aol.com]

I kind of squirt the kicker in the general direction, not necessarily on the felt or the wood. I just make sure I clamp it right away to make sure it sets up.

Wim

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On Sep 10, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Euphonious Thumpe <lclgcnp at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wim,
> I presume you are putting the Superglue on the molding, but spritzing the FELT with the "kicker", right?
> 
> Thumpe
> 
> From: tnrwim at aol.com <tnrwim at aol.com>; 
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>; 
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Re. Baldwin hammers 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 6:42:20 PM 
> 
>  What are you using to re-glue the hammers? How do
> you clamp them? 
> I put super glue on the molding, squirt some kicker on it, and then clamp the felt with vice grips. It sets in about 30 seconds.
>  
> If there are less than 10 hammers, and then only the top, I do this with the action on the piano. But when there are more than 10, and especially when there are a lot with the felt loose on the bottom, I take the action home. The problem is that when I do one side, the other side comes loose. That is why I am able to convince the customer to replace the set.
>  
> The problem is mostly on Hamiltons, but it has also happens on consoles, as in the piano I pictured.
>  
> Wim
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Gregg <classicpianodoc at gmail.com>
> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 4:55 am
> Subject: [pianotech] Re. Baldwin hammers
> 
> Wim,
> 
> I think we are in a similar climate, though Long Island is not as
> warm-pitty. I see Baldwin hammers open up on a pretty regular basis.
> Here, they are mostly in pianos that spent some time in a garage or
> basement. I think the Baldwin glue is just too moisture sensitive and
> the lack of staples. What are you using to re-glue the hammers? How do
> you clamp them? I have a couple neat clamps that are ratcheted and
> just fit the shape of a bass hammer. I put it in a TT&T.  Too bad that
> they are no longer available from Garrett Wade. I saw small spring
> clamps the same shape at Home Depot a couple weeks ago. They would
> make a good substitute. They were pretty cheap too.
> 
> Doug Gregg
> Classic Piano Doc
> Southold, NY 11971
> 
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> 
> This is a picture of Baldwin hammers, with the felt coming loose from
> the molding. Since I've been here, I've replaced about dozen sets, and
> glued the felt back on about 3 or 4 dozen pianos. The thing is, I
> don't think I ever saw this when I was in St. Louis or in Alabama, but
> then I didn't service that many Baldwins back then.
> 
> The question I have is, is it just happening in Hawaii because of the
> climate, or is this happening all over the country because Baldwin
> hammers were not glued properly at the factory, and without staples,
> and they are just now starting to come loose after 10 - 15 years?
> 
> Wim
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