Jon Page submitted this some time ago, and praised it. I made some notes and stored them, but have not bought this tool yet. Here it is (hope you don't mind, Jon): I have been using a fluid writing pen: http://www.dickblick.com/zz649/11/ with water-based black acrylic paint, thin size for outline, thick for fill-in. Gild the plate and spray clear finish coat, touching the plate will cause oxidation down the line. It is not advisable to apply a lacquer topcoat over water based products, they are not compatible. It might lift them off or cause them to crackle, been there, done that. Applying to clear coat, the water based material can be wiped off if a mistake is made without compromising the gilded surface. I used to use black lacquer and there was no such thing as a small mistake. The gloss black acrylic does not need a top coat. Application is a bit pains-taking for a primo job. Outline first. Apply the left edge on all characters and the top. Go back and do the right edge and the bottom. Go back and fill in. If you try to do the entire character all at once it can pool too thick and run. A neater, faster job is accomplished with outlining first. Heck, if you have a real steady hand you can leave the treble logo on S&S's as outline characters just as original. I can't :-( These fluid writing pens produce sharp, clean characters, better than a brush; especially for us untrained calligraphers. - Jon Page Kemper Fluid Writer Pen This tool is ideal for fabric painting, drawings, signing artwork, making perfectly consistent dots, line-art, and French matting. You can use this pen with acrylic paints, watercolors, oils, or ink. Thin the paint to a watery consistency. Fill the pen using your brush tip loaded with paint. Hold it like a pen and draw evenly over the surface, allowing the paint to glide gently. Clean the pen thoroughly after each use with the enclosed cleaning plunger and soap and water. Will Truitt (as unauthorized agent for Jon Page J) From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:16 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing Thank you. That's what I was looking for. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gravagne Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:56 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing RE Paint pens: Go to http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/ <http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/%20> Elmer's Paint Pens #21312-2002 Medium tip Black and #21312-2005 Fine tip, $3.88 each. See in middle portion of web page. I believe that I learned of these from someone on this list a few years ago. Anyway, they work great and if you make a mistake clean up is easy with a rag, no solvents or special cleaners. One thing, though; use pens prior to top clear coat, but "rough up" the raised plate letters with a rag or the paint will bead up as you apply it. Just rub the rag over the letters to break the glaze of your last lacquer coat, then all works fine. Final top coat does not cause the markings to smear or run. NG On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Encore Pianos <encorepianos at metrocast.net> wrote: They are not, Thump. Buy and try, then select what works best. Will Truitt From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:29 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing Don't remember the brand. Probably all about the same. Euphonious Thumpe From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing I kind of figured the color. What type of pen. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:39 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing >From art supply stores. Gloss-black, available in several tip types. Euphonious Thumpe From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing Which paint pens do you use David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:07 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing I don't know about Will, but the paint pens I use have paint in them that would be disturbed by the solvents in a top coat. Euphonious Thumpe From: "chrisstor at aol.com" <chrisstor at aol.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [pianotech] plate finishing Will, Just to be clear, do you do your plate lettering just before the final coat of clear? Chris S. -- Nick Gravagne, RPT AST Mechanical Engineering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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