Duane. A "real" professional piano tuner uses a ETD, and then checks it aurally. Those that only uses a ETD are just taking money from customers to tune the piano. That doesn't necessarily make them a professional. Wim Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net> wrote: > Dave and Les, > > Oh, I beg your pardon, don't you remember, REAL - PROFESSIONAL - tuners tune AURALLY, not with "new fangled" machines. > > Jokingly - just wanted to get a reaction from the the "PROFESSIONAL" aural tuners............ > > I am one of the "OTHER" PROFESSIONALS that just happened to use another "new fangled" machines - Cybertuner, > Duaine > > On 05/06/2012 02:42 PM, Leslie Bartlett wrote: >> >> So, Dave, why don’t you pick a Convention near by, and teach an all day seminar on the in’s and out’s of TL. I’m an ignorant person about so many things. Customers are satisfied with my tunings, but the special tweaks and alterations which can be done are, for a lot of us, not in our knowledge base…………….. What about it????? HUH? Wouldja??????????? >> >> Les bartlett >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:*pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *David Porritt >> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2012 4:30 PM >> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] tunelab vs verituner >> >> Albert: >> >> Trust me, the software is not deficient. TuneLab is something that needs to be set up to match both the tuner’s taste, and the scale of the piano. There are more ways than most to set it up though I’ve seen people have trouble understanding the concept. >> >> TuneLab uses octave sizes that you can choose (i.e. 8:4, 6:3, 4:2...) but people who don’t understand the theory sometimes have trouble setting those. Personally I like 3:1 12^ths but TuneLab is very flexible. I can’t imagine not being able to find an octave size that suits with the options available. >> >> dave >> >> ______________________ >> >> David M. Porritt >> >> dmporritt at gmail.com >> >> *From:*pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *Albert Picknell >> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2012 2:00 PM >> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] tunelab vs verituner >> >> --- On *Fri, 5/4/12, Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft /<alliedpianocraft at hotmail.com <mailto:alliedpianocraft at hotmail.com>>/* wrote: >> >> I've been using Cybertuner (PDA) for about 8 years and keep trying the Tunelab on my iPad (I love the big screen). >> I can't get enough stretch with the tunelab, especially on larger Steinways. What settings do you use? Any tips >> would be appreciated. >> >> Al - >> >> High Point, NC >> >> ****** >> >> I'm glad someone else has mentioned this issue with Tunelab. While I don't use Tunelab myself, a colleague with whom I work very closely does use it. We work together in an institutional setting, so we hear each other's work all the time. One thing I noticed as soon as he switched from Cybertuner to Tunelab was that much of the treble was coming out flat. It may be a hardware issue, because he runs Tunelab on an iPhone, whereas he was running Cybertuner on a Dell PDA. But now that someone else has mentioned this issue, I'm again wondering whether the software is somehow deficient. >> >> Bert >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4977 - Release Date: 05/04/12 >> > > > -- > Duaine Hechler > Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ > Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding > Reed Organ Society Member > Florissant, MO 63034 > (314) 838-5587 > dahechler at att.net > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > -- > Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years >
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