Perhaps. Toilet paper is a good "supplement" for a good dump, as well. Enough. Joe > [Original Message] > From: <pianotech-request at ptg.org> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Date: 3/25/2012 2:02:55 PM > Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 41, Issue 78 > > Send pianotech mailing list submissions to > pianotech at ptg.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pianotech-request at ptg.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pianotech-owner at ptg.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Haynes Piano Manual (David Boyce) > 2. Re: Haynes Piano Manual (David Porritt) > 3. Re: string height measurements story stick > (jim at grandpianosolutions.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:27:08 +0100 > From: David Boyce <David at piano.plus.com> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Haynes Piano Manual > Message-ID: <4F6F637C.3000404 at piano.plus.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > No, I don't get it, Joe. > > I have not encountered these many other manuals you refer to, except for > the 1920 Amateur Mechanic extract that I put on my Technical Info page, > with just such strictures as you mention. > > What are these many other manuals, and what would you point to in the > Haynes book - which I presume you have read - as an example of falsely > suggesting that something is easy to do with minimal effort? > > And do you not accept that the full-colour photos throughout make this a > useful supplement to Reblitz for the piano technology student? > > Best regards, > > David. > > > David, > > I've seen far too many "manuals" such as this. They all espouse that the > > work needed, on any piano, is easy to do and with minimal effort, one can > > achieve good results! That's pure Bull*&$*!! This one is no different and > > does a disservice to our trade, imo. > > Get it? > > Regards, > > Joe > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120325/9589d5f0/attac hment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:48:54 -0500 > From: "David Porritt" <dmporritt at gmail.com> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Haynes Piano Manual > Message-ID: <016f01cd0ab7$ef870a70$ce951f50$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > David: > > > > I too prefer a customer who knows something about their piano and the more > information they have the easier it is for them to understand what they > need. > > > > I also understand the downside which is exemplified by this site. > <http://www.balaams-ass.com/> This guy has made it his life's work to > discredit legitimate piano service people - particularly PTG members. I > haven't heard anything about him for a long time, so maybe he's not as > aggressively disparaging us now. Just the name of the site says volumes. > > > > dave > > > > ______________________ > > David M. Porritt > > dmporritt at gmail.com > > > > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf > Of David Boyce > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:27 PM > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Haynes Piano Manual > > > > No, I don't get it, Joe. > > I have not encountered these many other manuals you refer to, except for the > 1920 Amateur Mechanic extract that I put on my Technical Info page, with > just such strictures as you mention. > > What are these many other manuals, and what would you point to in the Haynes > book - which I presume you have read - as an example of falsely suggesting > that something is easy to do with minimal effort? > > And do you not accept that the full-colour photos throughout make this a > useful supplement to Reblitz for the piano technology student? > > Best regards, > > David. > > > > > David, > I've seen far too many "manuals" such as this. They all espouse that the > work needed, on any piano, is easy to do and with minimal effort, one can > achieve good results! That's pure Bull*&$*!! This one is no different and > does a disservice to our trade, imo. > Get it? > Regards, > Joe > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120325/d1564279/attac hment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:58:02 -0400 > From: "jim at grandpianosolutions.com" <jim at grandpianosolutions.com> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] string height measurements story stick > Message-ID: <4F98655A.50906 at grandpianosolutions.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Coming to this thread late. > > I came up with this dead simple story stick to deal with interior > dimensions in a previous work life. Its so dead simple, accurate and > fool proof(since no numbers are recorded) I was able to get real ballsy > when taking on-site dimensions and templating back to the shop for > fabrication. I gave it to Fastcap and they sat on my it for a couple > years before finally turning it down. Every "improvement" they added > to it to "add value", made it less useful. > > Simply, a length of aluminum screen spreader extrusion, available at > most hardware/lumber stores or online. A piece of poplar is sized for a > friction fit, and profiled at the top how ever makes sense to you. I > bring it to a narrow flat point for this use, to limit errors in the > readin if taken slightly out of perpendicular to the keybed. > > The poplar is fit so that with one hand you can extend it to the > measuring point smoothly, and the slight friction fit holds it at that > position, without any 2nd or 3rd hand contortions, while you record the > dimension. > > A small piece of the poplar sliding story stick is used as a plug in the > bottom of the extrusion and staked in place by dimpling the extrusion > with a center punch a few times, to make sure the index surface does not > get bunged up. > > If you use the extrusion over and over, you can save each piano's > personal string heights for posterity on a little 6" piece of poplar. > No numbers to screw up. > > I set these up in lengths up to 10 ft, and by adding pins at the ends, > or different end shapes, can use them to square cabinetry, sash, door > openings. whatever, quickly, without numbers, with a precision that as I > say, lets one get ballsy in a way I wouldn't have dreamed before I came > up with them. > > For you California dudes I named it the "Inner Dimension" <G>. > > Jim Ialeggio > > > > > -- > Jim Ialeggio > jim at grandpianosolutions.com > (978) 425-9026 > Shirley, MA > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: string-height-assembled.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 22736 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120425/5fe6c2e4/attac hment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: string-height-storey.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 23247 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120425/5fe6c2e4/attac hment-0001.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: string-height-measuring-ext.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 19529 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120425/5fe6c2e4/attac hment-0002.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: string-height-base-and-stor.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 23117 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120425/5fe6c2e4/attac hment-0003.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech mailing list > pianotech at ptg.org > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > End of pianotech Digest, Vol 41, Issue 78 > *****************************************
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