I'm still working on this action. I've FINALLY found the right combination for shank replacement. I could not find anything that would work in a Shank & Flange thing. What I've found to be the answer is: 1. keep the brass flanges, as long as they are sound, (drop screws move freely & the retainer clip/screw work properly) 2. Renner Steinway, Modified Shanks, (#913 029). Remove the flanges, (of course), AND remove the knuckles, which are standard 10mm, replace with the 9mm knuckles. This probably strikes many of you with the thought that this is an awful lot of work. Well, yes it is, but the end results are worth it, imo.<G> About the only things that I don't like about this is the darned center pins that are used in Renner Parts! Upon removal of said center pin, one can closely observe that the center pin has a "collet" cut into the center of the pin! Why?? I haven't a clue. Perhaps, someone can explain that one to me? This "collet", upon removing, sheers felt out of the "exit" bushing. This is like reaming just one side. Hence, you need to ...ream the other side to make the bushings equal again! Not good, imo. Another item, that I wish Renner would cease, is the practice of impregnating their bushing cloth with graphite. Hate that. However, all said and done, this conversion will work very well, once the parts are "re-made".<G> To Renner's credit, the parts are very consistant, which makes it easy to use them for these types of action work. Also, they are very nice to work with. Orders are dispatched quickly and accurately. Big plus in my book tbs. Oh, I guess I should tell y'all why Shank & Flange combinations won't work. Main thing is: 1. Chickering used an odd screw to hold the flanges on. It is a #10-40! This was a thread that was used before WWII. The original bolts are too short for wood flanges, unless you want to DEEPLY inset, (countersink), the flange holes. I was able to find longer bolts of this size, but only in brass, which would not be suitable, in my opinion. 2. There are no new flange/shank combinations, that would, even, have a 6.0mm - 6.2mm knuckle distance. Whee, are we having fun yet?<G> Of course, I could have made a new rail to accomodate new flanges/shanks...but, this is a wood action framed action!....more fun tobe sure. (the frames cannot be removed from the key frame, they're glued/morticed. Well, I hope this will get some piano conversations going and get us away from the "list" FUBAR discussions. Regards, Joe Joe Garrett, R.P.T. Captain of the Tool Police Squares R I
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