[pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)

[Ryan Sowers]

I'm regularly amused that people take so much time to get involved in
discussions they claim they have no interest in. It is so easy to ignore
threads that have no appeal. Many (at times most) of the threads that get
discussed both here on Pianotech and on the "New & Improved!" lists have
little interest to me, so I do a lot of scanning and skimming.

How annoying I would be (even more than I am now <g>) if I stuck my nose
into a thread that I thought particularly boring, and told the people there
to "Get a life!". (I mean, we can THINK it, but maybe we shouldn't SAY it
<g>)

Ryan Sowers,
Trying to "Get a Life" for 43 years and counting...



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>wrote:

> I didn’t appreciate being lectured.****
>
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> One thing that can be said for the new format even with all its faults,
> added time for the interface to operate apparently seems to discourage this
> type of endless back and forth on empty subjects.  Maybe just that little
> bit of extra time and effort discourages people from shooting off the first
> thing that comes to mind in a fruitless rant.  Might be the best argument
> for the new format.   I don’t see this type of hyperventilating going on
> there.  Maybe I’m just lucky.  Perhaps the more formal structure
> discourages “chatting” and all that goes with it.  This list is fast
> becoming a facebook wall posting medium and it is, in my view, diminished.
> I regret that I may be contributing to that as I write.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> I stayed completely out of the discussion for 95% of it until I just got
> sick of hearing all the griping about relatively small issues: a letter
> crossing in the ether, an individual’s (it does seem like an isolated
> incident) difficulty with paying a membership fee, so I finally decided to
> say something, in effect, get a life, let’s move ahead.  I’m still saying
> that and so now will move ahead.  I’ve input far more into this discussion
> than I intended and I apologize for my impatience, irritation, snide
> remarks, snippiness and any other disagreeableness.  ****
>
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>
> David Love****
>
> www.davidlovepianos.com****
>
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> *From:* David Skolnik [mailto:davidskolnik at optonline.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:13 AM
> *To:* davidlovepianos at comcast.net; pianotech at ptg.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)****
>
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> At 11:16 AM 2/8/2012, DavidL wrote:
>
> ****
>
> Sometimes people need to be reminded to stop whining and get on with their
> lives. I see this as further evidence but thanks.
> David Lovewww.davidlovepianos.com(sent from bb)****
>
>
> Davey - One or both of us is not getting the point.  Perhaps it's
> 'Last-Word'ism, or 'I'll Stop If You Stop'ism, but, without an emoticon,
> this is some snide crap.  (See how I up the ante and lower the level of
> discourse, all at once?)    "Stop whining"?  Are you talking to me?
> Where's the whine.  I just explained to you why your previous post could
> be, intended or not, viewed as provocative.  And what do you do?  You
> artfully craft another.  That's fine, but don't pretend that it's others
> who need a life if you can't avoid provoking them.
>
> David Skolnik
> Hastings on Hudson, NY
>
>
> ****
>
> DavidL wrote:
>
> ****
>
> are people's lives that empty that this topic continues in every possible
> ridiculous iteration. People should get a life and move on. .... Life is
> too short as it is.****
>
>
> At the risk of continuing the offense:
> The original complaint was a re-kindled expression of frustration about an
> issue that has not entirely disappeared: frustration with aspects HL format
> and continued ignorance as to the ultimate (or sooner) disposition of this
> list.   I agree that Will's post was, perhaps, a bit premature, but, in his
> defense, he had already lost an hour of his time, at least allegedly, to
> the errant software, so some slack should have been extended.  Most of what
> followed was attacking him or in defense of.  And I would have let it ride,
> even though "get a life and move on" can, in fact, be read as provocative,
> but, between this and Wim's closing "shut the hell up" (sans :-)) to what
> was an otherwise reasonable perspective on organizational procedures, I
> felt disinclined to simply walk away.
>
> Both of you had the options of not continuing to read the thread or of not
> responding.  You both made valid points, but allowed yourselves to indulge
> in 'Zing'ery. That, as much as any flawed thought process of others, is
> what tends to perpetuate these things, past the point of enlightenment or
> fun.
>
> Let's do better.
>
> David Skolnik
> Hastings on Hudson, NY****
>
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-- 
Ryan Sowers, RPT
Puget Sound Chapter
Olympia, WA
www.pianova.net
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