[pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue

[Alan Eder]

I find more loose hammers from hide glue than from  TB Trim glue by far. 
As I have posted in the past, of the fifty-odd pianos at my school, some hammers factory glued, others by me, the ONLY glue that has NEVER failed after years in this challenging environment has been TB Trim. That includes hide glue and whatever it is that Yamaha, Steinway, Bosendorfer and Baldwin used on their instruments in our inventory,


Alan Eder



-----Original Message-----
From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue



I’ve been using TB Trim and Molding glue for years now for hammers.  I don’t find any downside to it.  Joe, what do you mean about “chasing voicing”.  It removes easily with a bit of heat.  Forms  nice collar, does everything it’s supposed to do, IMO.  
 
Hide glue for felt, leather etc. is good but for gluing on hammers, I find it’s less trustworthy unless you are very careful about the proper viscosity, has limited working time.  I find more loose hammers from hide glue than from  TB Trim glue by far.  
 
I do like Bolduc’s glue for soundboards and bridge caps.  
 
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 9:07 PM
To: joegarrett at earthlink.net; pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue

 
 Hi Joe 

  I've been using tightbond 50 for over  a year now for many, many applications and it dries hard as hide glue, has a good set up time & gap fills if needed. Very strong stuff. Its only available in 5 gal buckets so I buy it and sell it in quarts if any care to give it a test drive. 

  I glue on hammers, use it in all wood work, including bridge cap and it does not gum up in the bridge pin bits. Glue up soundboard panels, glue ribs to panels & finished board to the rim/rasten. Glue up our pinblocks too all with great success. I can't find a down side. I don't recommend it for other action work though and  as you are found of saying.... Hide glue for felt and leather work please!.

Dale Erwin R.P.T.
Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.
Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos
www.Erwinspiano.com
Phone: 209-577-8397

 
  

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:00 pm
Subject: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue

I finally found a good use for this stuff: it is good for making leather
case buttons. No, I don't use it for hammers. (not unless I like chasing
voicing for a year or two.<G>) As most know, I prefer Hide Glue for most
work, but I do use many other glues, just not for action work. My rule is:
if it needs to be taken apart, sometime, then hide glue is the choice.
Otherwise, if it needs to be "forever" then my glue of choice, these days,
is Tite Bond III. I still use Tite Bond. Never did like the T.B. II. It
left the fingers yellow and had a really short working time. (I've been
told that the Tite Bond II Extended is better in that regard. However, it's
hard to find. Haven't tried it, because TB III is better, imo. 
Well, I digress. The Trim & Moulding Glue container went back to the old
bottle tip. No clue why. I asked Franklin, but they did not reply to the
question, just sent me a wad  of those tips! Good Company, fer sure. I have
a Love/Hate relationship with their bottle tips, (both). Wish they'd come
up with one like Borden's has on their School glue bottles. It's what I use
in my tuning kit. It's small, stays sealed and can be used to "pressure"
glue into cracks w/o plugging/closing. 
Best,
Joe
 
 
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I
 


 
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