[pianotech] Rebuilding criteria (yeah, I changed the subject.<G>)

[Paul Williams]

Y'all are way to uptight in the panties!  Refurbushed is just word like any other.  When I say it, I replace most or all action stack parts, and/or restring (new bridge pins always on restringing), and see to any other crap going on that can be done without "rebuilding".  Get off my butt about what term I use. It is in no way 'rebuilding'!! People who use the word 'rebuilding' are out to lunch unless they do the whole thing.
What word should I use? "partial rebuilding", Rehabilitating, part replacing, what?  I'm all ears unless you're going to bash me around some more.

Paul;


From: Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com<mailto:erwinspiano at aol.com>>
Reply-To: "pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>" <pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>>
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:49 PM
To: "pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>" <pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Rebuilding criteria (yeah, I changed the subject.<G>)

Can ya give one for refurbish.
 Nowthis is my personal nebulous favorite.  YA know? It was refurbished? Now this can mean just about anything to anyone.
Thanks Bill

Dale Erwin R.P.T.
Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.
Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos
www.Erwinspiano.com
Phone: 209-577-8397






-----Original Message-----
From: William Monroe <bill at a440piano.net<mailto:bill at a440piano.net>>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>>
Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Rebuilding criteria (yeah, I changed the subject.<G>)

I think the problem with defining these terms is that they are so variable from piano to piano - it just depends upon what the piano needs.  For example, I use the following definitions (which I believer are from the Piano Book):

Repair: Fixing isolated or individual problems that a piano may have - e.g. a broken hammer shank, a non-functioning key.
Restoring/Reconditioning: Improving the overall quality of a piano by cleaning, lubricating, resurfacing, or replacing worn felts or leathers, but not replacing parts, per se.
Rebuilding: Improving the overall quality of a piano including new parts. Rebuilding may or may not involve refinishing the case.
Remanufacturing: Improving the overall quality of a piano, including new parts, soundboard, refinishing the case, and possibly making design changes.

You'll note, for example, the lack of reference to soundboard replacement in the rebuilding definition.  I don't think a soundboard has to be replaced for a piano to be considered fully (totally, completely, whateverly) rebuilt - others may disagree.  However, in some cases, the soundboard absolutely has to be replaced in order to consider an instrument rebuilt.  It just depends.  So I prefer to define these terms by virtue of the general process, the approach, rather than a specific list of items that must be included in order to consider the piano "rebuilt" (or remanufactured, or restored).

My 2 cents,
William R. Monroe





On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Encore Pianos <encorepianos at metrocast.net<mailto:encorepianos at metrocast.net>> wrote:
That was my attempt at humor.  I do think those terms should be standardized
as to what those terms would entail.  We can't help what our customers end
up thinking.

Will


-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org<mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org>] On Behalf
Of Joseph Garrett
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:49 PM
To: pianotech
Subject: [pianotech] Rebuilding criteria (yeah, I changed the subject.<G>)

Will Truitt said:
"I know what a REAL REBUILD entails, but I'm not telling, and you can't pry
it out of me...... :-)"

Will
Dagnabit! Thar it is! The same stuff.....nobody's talkin'!<G> This is an
age-old problem. Is there a possibility that,...maybe...WE could do
something about that?
Regards,
Joe


Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I



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