[pianotech] Christman Grand

[Dale Erwin]

Its nice when its both Musical and sentimental


Dale Erwin RPT-
 Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos
Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts
Sitka Soundboards & Supplies
WWW.Erwinspiano.com
209-577-8397

 
  





-----Original Message-----
From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Christman Grand



Actually my approach is simpler.  If it’s a family heirloom and has sentimental value to them and they want to pass it down through the generations then it might be worth doing.  Otherwise, it probably isn’t.  While the piano given the right treatment would, I’m sure, have some good musical quality, I would have a hard time arguing for doing the job only with the promise of musical quality.  It’s the sad reality.  Of course if they wanted to give it to me to play with I’d probably get to it eventually.  Right behind the Knabes and Chickerings that are sitting in the shop waiting to be done as well.  
 
My typo in the subject line, btw, it should have been “Christman”.
 
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:29 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand

 
I think value needs to be ascribed to this kind of project in a new way. Musical.
  In our shop, even M Steinways aren't money makers as a spec project anymore. If I get one for free it still a 30 K rebuild when all is replaced and refinished. Whats it worth? Tried selling one lately?
 
 At some point nothing is worth rebuilding if you can buy a 6 ft Wendel & Lung etc. from China for 10 K. So the sales pitch needs to be based on the outcome, inherent original quality and the final tonal result of a custom rebuilt made and rebuilt in America(n) piano.

Dale Erwin RPT-
Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos
Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts
Sitka Soundboards & Supplies
WWW.Erwinspiano.com
209-577-8397

 
  

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand

Yes it is interesting how things get abandoned and lost probably for the
sake of manufacturing expediency.  These types of bridges are clearly more
trouble to make but probably with some real benefit.  Here's a couple final
pictures.  The treble backscale is quite long without the tuned rear duplex
aliquots and you can better see the angle in the capo section.  I'd probably
reduce the felt width and density behind the counterbearing bars to reduce
drag there.  Anyway, a potential project in the making.  We'll see what
happens.  A piano where the value doesn't really justify the cost of redoing
it but it may have the inherent design and structure to be quite a nice
small piano (good set of ivory on it too!).  A family heirloom so there's a
chance.
 
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:48 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand
 
On 4/22/2012 11:27 PM, David Love wrote:
> Here's a couple more pictures showing that the tenor aggraffe line has
> already been slightly offset
 
Very good! No tuned low angle duplex either. Can't tell how steep the 
angle is or how much pressure and drag the big felt acreage provides.
 
 
>and a better picture of the entire length of
> the backscale.  Even some of those European loops would probably help back
> there.
 
Surely.
 
It's terrific how much individuals have learned and implemented through 
the history of this industry, and sad how very little of the good stuff 
has survived in current production and general knowledge. But that's not 
just this industry either, is it.
 
Good find.
Ron N

 

 
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