[pianotech] new/old list...

[james dally]

Hi:  maybe 10 years back I planned to join the PTG.  I inquired and found I should attend a meeting.  I went to Columbus for a chapter meeting, met the folks, etc.  I later called the chairman and told him of my interest and of how I enjoyed the meeting.  He said he would call me back.  He did and said, "Nobody remembers your being there".   Obviously I did not join.  Now an MPT.   James Dally
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthew Todd 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 8:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] new/old list...


  Ron Koval said:

  "Perhaps this could be a reason for the push to the new software?  I'm troubled by this shift, perhaps as
  much as I am troubled by my (and your) dues money now being used for radio ads in our local community
  that are at best a conflict of interest, and at worst a departure from the truth."


  Ron,

  Now you know where the $80,000 raise the PTG is getting from the dues increase is going,

  Matthew

  From: Ron Koval <drwoodwind at hotmail.com>
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:07 PM
  Subject: [pianotech] new/old list...


  Yup, it's me.

  I pulled myself out of lurking mode to respond to what I felt was an example of the reality of 
  what lies just beneath the veneer of civility - that attitude of entitlement and elitism that kept
  me away from the PTG for years.  I finally joined because of this list - back when it was hosted
  by BYU - even before Andy Rudoff hosted.  The lure of an "open source" discussion; where learning
  and teaching was valued by many of the technicians I'd get a chance to meet.

  Associate and non-member bashing really doesn't reflect well on the brand of RPT.  

  I read almost everything on this list, but don't respond too much anymore.  It was instructive
  to go back into the archives to find out that this list began to be hosted by the PTG in the fall
  of 2002.  Even after the move the list claimed: (from the "more info on this list")

  The "pianotech" list, provided as a community service by the Piano Technicians Guild, is a forum for piano technicians. The list resides on the PTG server and is maintained by the PTG, but the PTG does not control the content in any way. 
  The "pianotech" list is an open list, allowing anyone to subscribe or submit posts. 

  Contrast that with the new list: (which runs too slow for me to use in a meaningful way)

  "This site is provided as a service for the members of The Piano Technicians Guild."

  Perhaps this could be a reason for the push to the new software?  I'm troubled by this shift, perhaps as
  much as I am troubled by my (and your) dues money now being used for radio ads in our local community
  that are at best a conflict of interest, and at worst a departure from the truth.  

  From what I understand, membership in the PTG accounts for about a third of the working technicians in the states.
  Of those members, about a half are RPTs.  I've got to wonder about my commitment of time and money
  to an organization that advertises against half of the membership...

  Ron Koval








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