Thanks, Israel. That hadn't occurred to me. I previously used a SAT III and now a Verituner. I'm not positive but I don't "think" either of those do something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong. Besides, if an instrument is THAT flat, I usually just pull it up to pitch the first time over anyway. THEN use the pitch raise function. That way I get a feel for string breakage, pin tightness, etc. If they start breaking early, I back off. I even did it basically that way for 20+ yrs. of aural tuning. Avery On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Israel Stein <custos3 at comcast.net> wrote: > > > >Feb 02/03/11 1:55 PM Avery Todd wrote: > > >Even though I use an ETD some, using the pitch raise function ONLY with an > ETD on a 300 cent > >pitch raise, I'd be a little nervous about the amount of overpull. > Depending on the age and condition > >of the piano. Maybe it's just me, though. > > Avery > > I don't know which ETD you use, but on the Cybertuner, there is a ceiling > on overpulls - when you reach that ceiling, the "overpull percentage" > indicator changes colors, to tell you that the overpull is not enough to > compensate for the amount of pitch raise but that it is an arbitrary > ceiling, to prevent string breakage. > > There are three pitch raise ranges on the Cybertuner - small (up to 60 c) > medium (60-100 c) and large (100 c +). When the "large" is selected, the > program doesn't even attempt to get you close to the target pitch - as that > could in many cases cause an overpull beyond the string's break point. All > it does is get you to where you could use one of the other pitch raise > functions effectively, to get close to the target pitch on a second pass. So > all this talk about 300 cent one-pass pitch raises with a Cybertuner is just > an indicator of incorrect Cybertuner usage, with predictably poor results. > Someone aspiring to "respect as a professional" on the basis of skills > totally dependent on technology he or she "trusts" should at least know its > limitations and its proper use, as recommended by the > inventor/distributor... > > Israel Stein > > > > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Mr. Mac's <tune-repair at allegiance.tv>wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote: > > > With that kind of pitch raise, I would tell the customer that I would > > have to come back in 2-3 weeks do do another tuning. > > > > Some actually have me come back - and - others don't care and are > > satisfied with the way it sounds. These are probably the ones that have > > it tuned every 10-20 years. > > > > 99% of the time, it is all up to the customers "money belt". Are they > > willing to pay for a "follow up" tuning. > > Duaine, > > You are starting to change your tune, but that's okay. > because the tune you are advocating here > falls more in line with what generally is experienced as what is. > > Keith > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20110204/3e2b1753/attachment.htm>
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