Ed this is why I don't do outside tunings! How exact you make your tunings may not be as exact as I make mine. Don't get off of accusing me of charging too much for outside work. I state this upfront and tell them that I don't have time to tune outside my work at the university!! Economic status has nothing to do with it. There is no way I can judge over the phone where someone is, nor would I !! Come on! I went to Steve Ballmer's cabin in Washington, not realizing who he was, asked a few questions to his wife, gave them a quote, went there, and there was a Lester Spinet. NO, I did not automatically say, "Oh, you're rich, so this will cost 300 buck to tune!!!"" NO, I tuned and charged my normal rate!! I tune a piano as if I have to play it myself, so therefore, I only tune for me....and it takes more time, because I'm picky! I don't take economic status into consideration at all. I DO state this upfront, on the phone, before even going there. If they want me to come, than FINE. 3 hours is the extreme for the piano faculty or anyone, when they're nasty after the summer before classes start and they need to be perfect since they're is no time to get in there often. And then some action work when needed, so I should have been more clear. But who tunes a piano without looking at the action and regulation??? Bad form. My pitch raises take nearly 1/2 hour. Boo hiss on you who take 15 minutes to do so. I don't take "advantage" of anyone! Instead I state my higher rates, noting my lack of time outside my job, and if they want it, then, so be it. They know it up front. It just so happens that the people who still want me to come will be in a much higher economic situation rate than the average economic folk. I adhear to the PTG code, and therefore do not take on the really nasty jobs, as I stated before if you read more carefully. Perhaps I should never go out to private parties at all!?!?! I don't get too many takers, as you might think, and I always refer calls to qualified techs in the Guild to help them out; those outside clients, I must say are great people with very nice pianos, which I plan to nuture into the future. Please back off! Best Paul From: Ed Foote <a440a at aol.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Date: 10/31/2010 02:51 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] billing dilemma with pitch raises Paul writes: >> Even here at UNL when the weather changes, find some pianos horribly wild and will struggle with them for 2 or 3 hours, sometimes... I am astounded that it would take 3 hours to tune a piano. It only takes 15 minutes to get a piano to pitch, and then perhaps another 90 minutes to fine tune. Exactly what takes 3 hours? And, if a piano is 30 cents flat or sharp(!), there is no point in trying to end up with a super-fine tuning, since the wood will move around in the next 48 hours, and that tuning will not be there afterwards. (see below) >>My tuning rate is constant, (much higher than the local techs...for a reason) but the pitch adjustment charges will vary, not by time, but by how far out they are....sharp or flat (being wildly both ways in the midwest). Of course, some wealthy folks will still ask for me ( I guess it's the position here...) so I give them my higher than normal rate; they like it; and off I go. << This doesn't compute. If you charge by how wealthy the customer is, your rate is NOT constant, it is opportunistic, and it will only be a matter of time before some customers find out that they are being charged more because they have more. This will not be a happy day for anyone. >>I will also advise them before I start when nasty flat or sharp, that my first visit will require a follow up tuning (or 2 or 3) in the coming month or so, if they want the piano to get to a stable point. That is the point; a horribly out of tune piano will need another tuning, later. Is it in the customers best interest to be charged for 3 hours of work when it will have to be redone in a couple of weeks? Wondering, Ed Foote RPT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20101031/58c64160/attachment-0001.htm>
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