[pianotech] Of Chisels

William Truitt surfdog at metrocast.net
Sat Oct 9 09:54:38 MDT 2010


Terry, I think you should put that picture on your website with the caption
- "A well sharpened chisel will give a much cleaner cut".  J  (that's coming
from someone who has sliced and diced himself too!)

 

I have a couple of Japanese paring chisels very much like yours.  Sharpened
on a good set of Japanese waterstones, they take a fearsome, mirror edge and
will cut so cleanly that they will leave a burnished surface in the maple.

 

The blade portion of the laminated chisel is made of very hard steel - on a
really good Japanese chisel, it will be 64 to 66 on the Rockwell C scale,
which is about as hard a steel as we can get for edge tools.  Steel this
hard is also quite brittle, which means it is prone to chipping and or even
breakage.  Which is why it is laminated to much softer steels for the shank
of the chisel.  These steels are more flexible and less prone to breakage.
Thus the combination of the two steels in a lamination gives the best of
both worlds.  So these quality chisels will never be a "bung" chisel and
using it as such will tantamount to "tool abuse".  I have my "s..t chisels"
to be used with reckless abandon.

 

Sharpening a chisel well means sharpening BOTH sides of the chisel, always
keeping the edge at a consistent angle as you sharpen, and using a
progression of stones with ever finer grits.  If you were to look at a
chisel edge under sufficient magnification, you would see that the edge
would not be a single straight line, but rather look like a rough series of
large serrations.  Moving the chisel over the stone, reduces the size of the
serrations as you progress up in grits.  Even that mirror edge will have
serrations, but they will be very small.  My stones go from 600 grit to 8000
grit.  There are some ceramic stones that go up to 30,000 grit.  You learn
to sharpen by understanding proper technique and practice, practice,
practice - it is an acquired skill

 

Will

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Terry Farrell
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 7:18 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Of Chisels

 

I honestly haven't noticed a huge difference between cheap and good chisels
regarding their ability to acquire a sharp edge. How long that sharp edge
will last is definitely related to quality of metal (the harder that
longer-lasting - but also the more difficult to sharpen). I know that you
need to have a proper angle for a good wood edge (and sorry, without looking
at my notes on my Tormac I don't know what they are right off hand).

 

Now maybe my "cheap" chisels are not REALLY poor quality. I have to admit
that I do have several REALLY cheap chisels that I use for nasty work -
hammering on stuff with nails in it, chiseling concrete, etc.  And I also
have to admit that I have tried to sharpen these chisels and they never do
seem to get a really fine edge on them. Perhaps we need a metallurgists
input, but my understanding is that some metals are finer "grained" than
other metals (well, steels) - the finer the "grain", the sharper the edge
attainable. I'm not a metallurgist and I don't know exactly what metal
"grain" is - particle size presumably. I know metal doesn't have annual
growth rings, and I've never really seen metal "grain". But it only seems
reasonable that some metals (steels) are going to produce a finer/sharper
edge than others - and presumably more expensive metals would be the finer
"grain" metals.

 

I presume this issue of steel "grain" size is the biggest difference between
good and cheap and the ability of a chisel to be more finely sharpened.

 

The best chisels I have run across are Japanese laminated chisels. Del
Fandrich turned me on to them when I asked him about a chisel for bridge
notching. The laminated chisel has two metals of different hardness - a very
hard metal on the lower surface (where the tip of the blade is) and a
thicker softer metal on the top. The reason they laminate two metals
together is to give you a blade of adequate thickness (stiff, feels good,
etc.), is easy to sharpen (soft metal grinds quickly and hard metal is so
thin that it is not time consuming to sharpen) and holds a sharp edge for a
long time (hard metal is at blade tip - hard metal holds sharp edge for long
time).

 

Bottom line is that I do believe that "good" chisels are better than "cheap"
and worth it for the professional woodworker.

 

My Japanese chisels are like these Usu Nomi - Japanese Paring Chisels:
http://www.fine-tools.com/usu-nomi.html

 

I can get these things so sharp it's scary.......

 



 

Hope this helps.

 

Terry Farrell

 

On Oct 9, 2010, at 5:11 AM, David Boyce wrote:





Speak to me of chisels, folks.  

What makes them able to take a good edge or not?  

Over the years I've bought "bargain" chisels, and sharpened them to what
felt like a good edge, only to find that they wont cut wood by hand unaided
but have to be battered with a mallet.  it daunts one's confidence.  The
other day I was enlarging a mortice in the  front door of my mother's house
so as to fit a new lock, and as ujsual was struggling with a cheap chisel.
Then I dug out a couple of my late father's old chisels, very churned-up at
the tip, but  a decent make (Marples) and sharpened them, to find that they
cut well.

What is the difference in the metal?  Why don't some cut even though they
feel sharp to the finger?

Many years ago, back in nineteen-canteen in High School, I got an A in the
woodwork exam.  But we were never initiated into the myteries of cheap v.
good chisels.

I await pearls of wisdom, knowing that on this list i am bound to get
'em....

Best,

David Boyce.

 

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